I do not want to downplay how serious an attack from other dog breeds can be, but pit bulls are a breed that was bred for fighting. By that I mean physically the dog was “engineered” for the task. Even if dog attacks occurred across all breeds at the exact same rate, the pit bull will still be more dangerous on average.
This is also ignoring the cultural aspect of it all. Pit bulls have had a long history of attracting some of the worst owners whether they deliberately raise the dog for fighting or are simply negligent, the outcome is increased danger and not just for yourself or your family.
You want to put yourself and your family in danger? Great. Have at it. But expecting me to be put at an increased risk of danger? No. Fuck off.
Do you believe in evolution by natural selection? Of course I do! Do you believe in evolution by unnatural selection? No! Traits that relate to violence vary strictly as a result of upbringing!
Yes, there are shitty pit bull owners out there.
No, not all pit bulls are aggressive, only non-neutered, poorly trained, or abused ones.
Yes, it’s weird how the comic uses an overweight woman to characterize bad dog owners but not the victims.
Yes, it’s weird how the comic uses an overweight woman to characterize bad dog owners
It also characterises “regular-weight men” as bad dog owners (second panel).
but not the victims
Yeah, let’s stop with the “skinny-girl victim” propaganda! Plus size women can be victims too!
Is this a dig at pitbulls?
One the oldest around.
If you know what breed it’s talking about, that suggests there’s probably some truth to it
That’s not a valid argument, since it can be used elsewhere. Using that argument would confirm any racist or sexist stereotype as well, since you know what they mean. Just because someone has heard let’s see, that Jewish people are lizard aliens who drink blood and adrenochrome from babies doesn’t mean there’s some truth to it.
I’m not using the above as an argument against pit bulls having aggressive natures; I mostly stay out of that argument (though the one pit I remember was a lovely pup). I am saying that as an argument backing up the aggressive claim, it’s a bad one to use.
Stereotypes about groups of humans are politically motivated. Not true of dog breeds.
You might want to adjust your thoughts on the second. Studies have shown that pit bulls are associated with black people, and that people who have unfavorable views of black people, especially as being violent, also have a correlation to negative views of pit bulls. You can find one such study here: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11213322/
Question: “If you had to guess, do you think Black people or white people are more likely to own the following dogs?” Source: Pooled Lucid Surveys, June-July 2020, August 2021.
Not everyone dislikes based on racial association, but to claim there is none only illustrates that your argument is both invalid and uninformed.
Studies have shown that pit bulls are associated with black people, and that people who have unfavorable views of black people, especially as being violent, also have a correlation to negative views of pit bulls
Not OP, but - this has nothing to do with racism, WTF are you talking about?
“Studies have shown”… My god, studies have shown that a breed created for violence and bloodthirst has a higher probability of being violent and bloodthirsty than those that weren’t, that’s literally all the context there was!
You kneejerked answered without even reading the linked study, didn’t you?
Of course I didn’t read the study, because it’s off topic.
Pitbull kills white dog trainer.
Pitbull of a black dog trainer kills another dog
Race of the human has nothing to do with the fact that the fucking dogs were designed to maim and kill, dude.
“If you had to guess” sounds like you are relying on hearsay there bud
That may be true in the US. Here in the UK there is no such correlation, and yet pitbulls here still cause more injuries and deaths than all other breeds combined. Odd, that.
Question is to what extent it is the breed versus the owners drawn to or scared away from the breed. These things can be self fulfilling.
Yes, it is and people are assholes.
Yes, pit bull bites are more dangerous. No, that doesn’t mean they should all be euthanized. They need proper training and that’s it.
They need proper training and that’s it.
Tuesday that 30-year-old (…) was found dead Monday night at a home near Newington from an apparent dog attack. (…) He says an autopsy revealed Wilcox died as a result of injuries received from the attack.
Investigators say Wilcox was familiar with the pets at that residence and had handled them safely on numerous occasions in the past. None of the dogs in the home had any known history of viciousness or aggression
Pitbulls are a breed designed to kill.
You can have a Border Collie and it will be shepherding sheep on a screen, or dust motes on the floor, because it’s in their DNA.
Killing and aggression are in the DNA of Pitbulls.
Stop being weird.
You’re missing the blindingly obvious solution that should be taken: spay and neuter them so that no new ones are bred.
Or - and hear me out - we could castrate and render infertile every person who suggests the elimination of an entire breed so that they can’t spread their idiocy to their children.
Hol’ up, there’s some sort of incongruity here that I can’t quite put my finger on…
You should be embarrassed to support eugenics.
r/whooooosh
Could you explain why you think they’re not serious?
I suspect they’re half-serious but both ironic and hyperbolic. Just seems the most likely.
Or, ya know, people could be responsible pet owners.
If we could rely on every member of any sizable group of people to all reach even the lowest bar of decency, the world would be a very different place. Any solution that relies on the idea of “if everyone just does x” is not a real solution, as much as I’d like it to be.
No amount of responsibility can overcome what 200 years of artificial selection at a rate of every 2 years.
Responsibility includes accounting for possible aggressive behavior :/ If you’re responsible for a chainsaw, you know to keep it oiled. You know to use it only in the correct environment, and you don’t have it anywhere near children.
So yes, you can responsibly own a pitbull. Responsibility is being responsible for a subject; its well being, its actions, and the consequences of its existence.
And yes, responsibility can overcome what 200 years of artificial selection at a rate of every 2 years has done. That is literally what responsibility is charged with.
You’re trying to twist and turn here. Accounting for? You can’t overcome it. I say again, you can’t overcome 200 years of artificial selection.
Yes, you can.
If it was about weeding out the fight drive of the dogs, a lot of things could be done, without the need to drive the breed to extinction. Inside the pit bull gene pool there are two lines: the fighting dogs and the bait dogs. The last ones are those that display the lowest drive for fighting and aggression. There is nothing wrong with these animals except their lack of will to fight other dogs and this trait makes these animals less desirable to people breeding these dogs that know they can make good money by keeping the fight drive of the breed. These are the people that often show off dogs hanging from ropes off the ground, growling and twisting on it, to showcase the bite force of the animals.
Increase the frequency of theses individuals in breeding pools, weed out the naturally more feisty, and you can modify the race or any race very fast. Pugs and Yorkshire Terriers area two examples that come to mind of breeds that suffered radical changes on very short time spans because of aesthetic trends. No obstacle on doing the same thing to improve a breed for good reasons instead of shallow ones.
There are a good number of breeds out in the world much more dangerous than the Pit Bull. The Tosa Inu, which was specifically bred to be a fighting dog, the Presa Canario, also bred for fighting, the Rodesian Ridgeback, and many others. In the 90’s, Dobermans had the dirtiest reputation for being very dangerous. Nowadays, not so much.
So, your statement is misinformed.
note to mods: don’t like what I wrote, just give me a permanent ban and be done with.
My aunt has lived with two pitbulls for almost a decade now. Raised two small children in the same home. Nothing but sweethearts. Dogs are individuals, just like people. Just like having another person around your baby, you need to be responsible with any dog breed.
Unfortunately there is a feedback loop somewhere.
Pitbulls have a reputation for being dangerous tough guy dogs, so “tough guys” get pitbulls and proceed to not treat them well, this give pitbulls the reputation of being dangerous tough guy dogs.
I live in Copenhagen, however, and I’ve seen some very nicely treated pitbulls, even one that was part of a family. They can be so gentle.
That’s exactly how everyone talks about their pitbull until it rips their child to pieces.
Now hypothetically, if every breed except Chihuahuas was banned, and those tough guys were forced to buy those and not train them.
Do you think there would be more, less or equal amount of dog mauling?
Hej fra København og jeg tror du har ret
So can guns.
Guns don’t get old and have a bad day killing their owner. Pitbulls do unfortunately. I’ve seen good ones and bad ones but when they are hurting or just grumpy old farts they can go off. The difference between a shitzu and and pitbull doing that is the pitbull is powerful and the shitzu is annoying.
“heres anecdotal evidence to support my worldview”
Yes
Sad.
But my smooth carapace hippo would NEVER harm anyone! Just look at it’s happy little smiles!
Did it force you to put that apostrophe into that possessive pronoun that’s already possessive and therefore doesn’t need an apostrophe just like his, hers, theirs, and ours?
Probably. I used mobile and rely on autocorrect for my fat fat thumbs. It just does what it wants.
Wrong alt account
My car does what it wants until I use the steering wheel or pedals. That’s how machines work.
This is basically the plot to Alien Earth.
Say no more. By that I mean no spoilers.
Chill, you’ve seen it already. That is the plot to every installment in the Alien franchise.
Did you finish the season?
Spoilers below
alien earth spoiler
It felt more like a synthetic vs human drama, with aliens as side characters, than any other film in the franchise. Wendy being able to communicate with the aliens was very different also.
Ugh, I don’t like that, and I’m all about synth stories.
If the synthetics don’t either start working their way up to purging the meat bags using their own two grasping claws or creating a synth utopia away from their nonsense what’s the point?
If you haven’t watched the season I recommend it, they play with some more interesting aspects of human-synthetic dynamics and questions about what it means to be either.
It’s a thoroughly enjoyable show, but not amazing by any means.
That seems to be the way things are going. Even the neutral character picked a side.
inseparable
I think the misspelling fits the character
I agree. They shudda spelled it insep’rable
Spelt*
Barley**
Hopscotch***
HEEL!
