Nah I’m pro-violence. This was an amazing thing that happened and I’m still riding the high days later.
I’ll say it, don’t decry political violence, it should just be done to an elected official or fascist leader. If all else fails democratically, that’s your duty. But not against a private citizen. I would much have preferred to have heard Charlie Kirk died of auto erotic asphixiation, while wearing a Wonder Woman costume and jerking off to gay porn. He was a dirtbag, and I’m glad hes gone but this means his message will live on
Wait, how does being a private citizen mean his message will live on?
Sorry about wording, him being assassinated, instead of dying shamefully will make his followers treat him like a martyr and others will continue his message of hate.
There’s a famous saying that goes:
You can start a war whenever you want, but you cannot end that war whenever you want.
In other words, when you attack someone, the other one has a right to defend themselves. And they can defend themselves however the circumstances require it, and the attacker has no say in that. So, it is dangerous for the attacker.
Let me guess, charlie kirk sitting in public with a microphone was attacking and the guy sitting on a rooftop with a rifle was defending?
Saying that stoning gays to death is “God’s perfect law”. Yep I call that attacking.
Kirk made the remarks on his podcast [@1h2m] while attacking children’s YouTube star Ms. Rachel, who had quoted Leviticus to say that God urges Christians to “love thy neighbor,” including gay people.
“By the way, Ms. Rachel, you might want to crack open that Bible of yours. In a lesser reference, part of the same part of scripture, in Leviticus 18, is that ‘thou shall lay with another man shall be stoned to death.’ Just saying,” Kirk said.
“So, Ms. Rachel, you quote Leviticus 19, ‘love your neighbor as yourself,’ the chapter before affirms God’s perfect law when it comes to sexual matters.”
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/maga-rages-stephen-king-over-120723372.html
Podcast Link is in the story but set your VPN to USA if you are external.
With that logic, Hitler didn’t kill but their soldier are. So hitler is innocent?
He was attacking minorities.
Yes, in a manner of speaking.
When you spent your entire life irl shitposting, don’t be surprised if someone shitpost you back with a fist or bullet…
Really crazy how little the censoring is too. Like how was the right crying about censorship just a few years ago to the point that they changed every websites rules. Now they’re getting people fired and making tip line to attack anyone saying anything and instead of rallying I see only a few places online making any noise about the censorship. Lots of jokes about Charlie but no real push at the fact these fuck heads are violating the freedom of speech Charlie supposedly fought for
Holy shit you’re right…these whiny bitches cried so goddamn hard about “cancel culture”
“Cancel culture is wrong… except when it helps us.”
“States rights need to be protected… except when they get in our way.”
“The debt ceiling is sacrosanct… except when we’re in power.”
“The separation of church and state… only applies to non-Christian religions.”
“The establishment pedo-ring must be destroyed… except when one of our guys is at the center of it.”
“Political assassinations are intolerable… but not the ones that target our enemies, they are fine.”
The list goes on and on.
This is America.
Exactly my point. God damn there is so much material that can be created. But there’s no channels. Why did the left kneecap itself
Because the left has been holding onto the false hope that things still work like they did up until the 2000s. The left hopes that someday we can return to a place where we disagree with each other but we can work toward a compromise that works for everyone. Then the 2000s hit and both sides began to move away from the center until they’re not able to even communicate with each other in good faith. Now the right wants to perpetrate a genocide and the left is too worried about breaking the rules
both sides began to move away from the center until they’re not able to even communicate with each other in good faith
I don’t necessarily agree with this point. The right has moved much further from the center, and a decent chunk of the left has let themselves be dragged halfway there in the wake. A lot of American ‘liberals’ are considered right wing in other countries (especially European countries). That’s always been true to a degree. But now it’s becoming more pronounced. But to add extra noise, there’s a portion of the left who are not more firebrand and have pulled further to the left. So the spread of ‘liberals’ goes a long way across the spectrum. Which also explains some of the fragmentation.
I agree with you, I was vague and that came across as a bit of a both sides argument. My bad.
It’s not a spread, it’s a decimation of the left.
I’m actually leaning towards the idea that we were herded here, away from the digital public squares. We’re all now in a very small corner making it easier for private interests to manipulate our spaces with their causes and let’s those interests unfettered access to the public. My main social media spaces are filled with people spreading all kinds of crazy shit and that’s no push back, no fact checking no other side showing what is wrong
Because they are embracing fascism, which is about consolidating power and weaponizing society against their opposition.
You’d waste a bullet of a TV star and not any one more deserving!?
Crazy stuff, coming from a sexual predator.
He jerked himself off in front of a couple of women. It was defo inappropriate, but calling him a “predator” is fucking psychotic. Comparing him to rapists and predators like Weinstein or Diddy cheapens their crimes and invalidates the trauma they caused. It’s like equating a petty thief with a health insurance CEO, or Al Frankens’ “hover hands” to Trumps pedophilia and dozens of sexual assaults.
None of the hundreds of female comedians and actresses he’s worked with have ever said he treated them inappropriately.
I agree with your first part, your second part is wrong.
The ladies that made the accusations against him, which he confirmed were all true, were up-and-coming comedians.
They said because he was in a position of power they felt like they couldn’t say no to his request.
To his credit, he validated every woman that made an accusation. He also said he didn’t realize the women were saying yes because of the implication if they said no. I tend to believe his story because after the women came forward, he admitted what happened, and the allegations stopped, no one else came forward. That seems to me like a guy that used bad judgement and didn’t understand the power he had.
I think him taking a timeout, realizing that women have a whole different set of circumstances to deal with that guys don’t, and reflecting on that was warranted. I don’t think he needs to be shunned forever.
Everybody deserves a chance to course correct after repenting for mistakes. Denying redemption is downright psychotic. You don’t have to forgive or even forget, but if you don’t acknowledge the work someone does in reparation, you yourself are broken.
must suck for you, since the people youve hurt obviously won’t forgive you
Don’t come here, make excuses for abuse, and call people names if someone isn’t willing to see it your way or whatever your point is
people in this thread calling others fucking psychotic really stink of misogyny
must suck for you, since the people youve hurt obviously won’t forgive you
Don’t take this as an insult (because it’s not meant as one), but accusing someone you don’t know like that kinda discredits anything you’re trying to say, whether you’re right or not.
There is no gender association in my comment nor did I presuppose your gender identity. In fact, I believe that what I said should be considered universal, not specific to this scenario.
Good luck finding peace. You seem to have a lot anger.
He already knew, it was part of his prescient comedian bit on dating.
The second part is not wrong. Other than those 2 (3?) that accused him, none of the other hundreds of female comedians and actresses who have worked with him over the previous decades have said anything negative about his behavior.
Your first statement says none. Your second statement says none except for the ones that did, that’s not the same thing.
An accurate sentence would be:
Besides the five women that accused him, no other female comedian or actress he’s worked with have said anything negative about him.
But, to say no female comedian has complained is just false, 4 of them weren’t anonymous.
What a weird fucking thing to jump so quickly to defend…
If a guy jerked themselves off in front of you, in a work situation, where there were more senior than you how would you feel?
Yes there’s grades of sexual predators, they’re still all predators, no-one is comparing here.
How it would make me feel is irrelevant. The problem is that one can’t tell for sure how the subordinate will really feel because they’re pressured into faking enthusiasm.
He abused his position of power for his own sexual gratification. That’s the definition of predatory behaviour.
Don’t make excuses for this man. He used his power over, as a successful comedian with a lot of control in the industry, to force sexual acts on unwilling women who feared for their careers. Then tried to justify it on a technicality. It’s creepy, it’s psychotic, and he should be on a list for it.
It would be adjacent to a prison guard dropping trow and making the inmates in his care watch him jerk off to them, their bodies, their presence. The guard in that scenario shouldn’t keep his job either. Or should he? He didn’t touch them right? He only touched himself, right? So that guard should keep his job, by your logic.
Louis had power over. Maybe not the same kind of power over but it was power. And he used it, and them, in a foul manner deserving of dismissal and possibly litigation.
It certainly puts his bit about men being the scariest thing for women in the dating world into perspective.
Wrong room.
We can compare apples to oranges because they’re both fruits, but the phrase exists for a reason. This is a predominantly US community of which all are highly strung more than their usual shit right now, and you’re coming in unusually hostile as though you have a stake in the matter of this specific subject.
Chill out. Doesn’t mean you’re wrong, but read the room and ask yourself if it’s worth the energy. You wint
Edit: I mean, fuck. Look at my comment. And I was putting shit on the guy… They don’t know what they want. Give em a few days.
read the room
fuck the room
Was he a predator? Thought he was just a creep
Depends on how you define your words. He consentually jerked off in front of female colleagues. He did not realize his position of power and tried to make things right. If this full fills your definition of predator than yes.
Yea that doesn’t. He’s just a creep. Even then barely a creep just an old guy being a pervert.
Youre a creep x
You’re pathetic
His comedy is still good, but so is Cosby’s. It can just never be enjoyed again unless you’re willingly really, really ignorant.
I suspect OP is either that or just innocently unaware.
Eeeh, he’s closer to how you want that situation to go than Cosby, by far.
He asked permission to touch himself in front of someone else, and only proceeded when he had their consent.
Turns out that consent between people earlier in their careers and someone more established can be tricky, to say the least.https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-41950043
What he did wasn’t violent, just ignorant to power dynamics. What he did wasn’t okay, but it’s far from drugging people.
Wasn’t comparing the two.
Don’t really feel like having to reiterate in the topic either and it’s certainly not the place for it. But as I implied, most are already well aware of what you just said; some are not.
So,here is a meme…
… You directly compared the two of them, but okay.
It’s a really odd product comparison that totally distracted me from the product.
You directly compared the two of them, but okay.
Covered this hypothetical in another comment, just didn’t think it’d actually happen…
“Fruit.”
“DID YOU JUST COMPARE APPLES AND ORANGES!!! You directly compared the two of them!!!”
Nah, mate. There was no comparison here.
There was no consideration of one to the other; which is more, which is less, what the differences are and which one you should pick if you remember to like and subscribe. Perhaps the definition of “compare” changed this week, I don’t know or care.
Enjoy the day. Just let it go.
Here’s another meme…
Shall we all suppose you’re just innocently unaware about Drake then?
… “Apples can go bad, but so can oranges” is literally comparison.
the representing of one thing or person as similar to or like another.
You didn’t have to argue about the meaning of the word comparison if you didn’t care. If you’re going to argue at someone, don’t tell them to stop responding. It conveys a weird energy of “I care enough to respond, but not enough to read a response”.
My day is going great. I got the day off and good leftovers for lunch, and now I’m just playing games and relaxing.
Here’s a bewildering product image for the leading brand of rabies vaccine in the US:
A friend woke up to a bat freaking out in their bedroom. We told him to go to the doctor, who said that he almost certainly didn’t have a rabies risk because the bat seemed fine, he had no visible bites, and most bats here don’t bite, buuut the “certainty of a slow and painful death” compared to “low risk moderate discomfort rabies vaccine series” means they recommend it anyway. To cheer him up we shared the terrible website design of the manufacturer. Seems people aren’t looking for the hip new thing when they’re looking for rabies vaccine.
Eh. If you’re on social media, and he is, he’s here, you know. Higher odds on deliberately stirring the pot.
Did he said this?
Nah he was too busy masturbating in front of his support act
It’s from one of his bits. Funny shtick.
“my kid has a peanut allergy, so of course I’m very careful about what I feed her. Of course I am…”
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Lhzi3Ah3WAA
(I got the quote wrong, but you get it)
Why are we posting sexual predator pricks?
That’s like half the pics posted to this community.
It’s ok now. The president is a rapist and pedophile.
