Listen, you just want to annex lake Michigan and take Chicago as a part of the bundle, I won’t argue. Because at this point I’m begging
Feel real bad for Illinois, Virginia, Colorado and New Mexico citizens.
And all the Democrats in the red states of course.
please take Alaska. I promise we are not that republican
I can be bribed into supporting that with king crab and salmon.
Canada would then be more US than Canadian at that point. US + Canada should keep United States of America name. The question is then what to call the other country. Kingdom of Christ? The 1950s?
“Gawd’s Cuntry”
Can Illinois come with? Chicago is pretty cool and we have some nice state parks!
I don’t wanna be left behind in the failed states. But otherwise I approve of this message.
Why would you assume Nevada would want to secede?
Why do we need counties at all? Why do we even draw borders to begin with?
Countries are just tribes that got bigger.
Why do tribes exist?
Administration is hard
Imagine
There, FTFY
FTFY
Except this is also how the “democracy” that is modern day Russia was created. Everything that’s happened in the U.S. since ~2012 that has been driving us to the brink of collapse by furthering the divide between left and right has been eerily similar.
Psychological Inoculation and Astroturfing: Preparing for exploitation of U.S. secession movements
A lot of people don’t know this, bc it’s not exactly clear what they were doing there, but coincidentally the Heritage Foundation also seemed to play a role in the creation of the first free market in the earliest days of post-soviet Russia.
The Heritage Foundation is a society of monarchists. It’s supported by oligarchs who want to be king to push the world towards that agenda, and such oligarchs routinely infuse it with capital.
thank you for not giving in to their rhetoric and letting this point die.
i get endless downvotes on all social media anytime i say a civil war is the absolute fucking worst outcome of any of the current trends.
guess people are just out for blood rn. i wouldn’t make it sound so innocent, tho. why are people out for blood? lots of answers, none satisfying enough.
Take an up vote from me. Civil wars nearly always end in tragedy beyond the imaginations of those who start them.
I believe the most obvious is they benefit (or at least believe they will benefit) from that outcome.
ain’t no fucking way your carving that out and leaving Minnesota behind, we’ve been basically Canada for hundreds of years
Getting California would make Canada shift in identity.
Getting Minnesota would honestly make us even more Canadian.
Can we include a chunk of the east coast please
Minnesota is ready for you too
Illinois can stay.
Fip off fips
What? No!
Okay, maybe everything more than 60 miles outside of Chicago can stay. Deal?
Nope sorry. Janesville has to stay too but we’ll take Madison and Milwaukee.
I think the red area should get alberta, maybe saskatchewan too. And I would personally like to see the Alaska pan handle transferred to B.C.
That’s much better.
Needs Colorado on there somewhere too. That place is a blue oasis surrounded by a sea of red bullshit states on all sides.
Not to the south, NM is just as blue if not more so.
And New Mexico! Please don’t leave us with those shitheads.
I guess we could go to Mexico and take Colorado with us. The border can cross us again.
They elected Hoedirt Boebert… no entry.
You say “they” as if states don’t have different districts. Boebert came from a right-leaning district, but was so toxic she couldn’t get re-elected there. So she had to move to an even more right district in order to win.
Add to that she’s actually a transplant from Florida, and it starts to make sense.
I propose we get CO and they can have WI, MI and PA
Hey take some cities as enclaves too. Blue cities in red states don’t deserve that kind of punishment.
What about the liberals in conservative areas? We all gonna hold off because they’re gonna get eaten by the dogs, too? What about liberal kids of conservative parents?
Just like now where they can all move to Massachusetts, under this plan, they can move to Canada
Realistically this wouldn’t be possible, at least in the way most people assume. It’s hard for people to just uproot their whole lives and move to another state (though it’s easier these days), a partition like this would mean leaving behind a lot of liberal minded people, who are too poor or too rooted in a place.
Eggs and omelettes.
So would the genocide be the eggs or the omelets?
On a family zoom call we were comparing house moves. My bro had the record at like 51 times he moved his house. One year he moved to Manhattan, then to Harlem, then to London.
It’s not hard, but it can be complex.
I have a garage filled with large power tools, my family and friends are all here and I own the land I live on. It’s hard and expensive to just uproot all that. For someone living an austere lifestyle it would be easier but if you’ve put down roots it’s much harder.
This is not just a simple house move, this is a whole on nation move, where you may never get to go back. There’s will be massive paperwork, a lot of uncertainty, chaos and pain. From my anecdotal knowledge on what happened in countries like west/east germany, north/south korea, india/pak, I can say that this event will be very stressful for a lot of people.
Especially if you have to move for your safety. You might have to sell your house for cheaper than what it’s worth, you might not be able to buy new land or find good renting opportunities. You might have to sell your business or close down. You might have to find new jobs, new schools, new everything. And some people just don’t want to leave their home, no matter how fucked things are, because there’s a chance they’ll never see it again.
This isn’t to mention, the pain that will come with such a divorce, the shame, and the lost hopes.
It’s definitely hard and complex. I think you are greatly underestimating how traumatic such a move would be for a lot of people (even if it maybe necessary).
We can have ChatGPT generate the paperwork. What could go wrong?
Moves are a pain, the biggest part is you lose circles of support as in friends, colleagues, community. But moving itself, while sucking badly is not terribly difficult. I have moved from UK, to Ontario, now to BC and its probably 12 houses I have lived in so far. You start to simplify your belongings as you go, but starting fresh friendship connections is the tricky part.
I was talking about the divorce as a whole. It would have some very serious ramifications. Moving wouldn’t be easy, because you’d be doing so under a whole different set of circumstances than moving abroad for studying or for a job. It’s not just you, it’s everyone who wants to live a “liberal democracy” who would want to move and it wouldn’t be easy at all, imo.
Historically mass exodus aren’t fun.
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Please take PA, please!!!
lol it’ll just be Philly surrounded by the Fascist Republic of Pennsyltucky, landlocked West Berlin style
(though I suppose Philly does at least have ocean access via the Delaware)
