Unfortunately society encourages and glorifies shitty behaviour. So this behaviour is completely normalised for the majority of people who see it as a thing to be desired, rather than something thats shitty.
There are more assholes than good people because assholery typically delivers better results in terms of wealth, power, and status, and good people have to accept a lower social status in order to maintain their goodness, but most people don’t fall into either category.
But the vast majority of people fall into an apathetic middle ground where they don’t really think too much about any kind of moral consistency and act according to paths they’re already on and the rules those paths require.
A bummer because im naturally nice and i get upset at people who aren’t. I just dont get it. I feel awful if I’m mean or something by accident or get misinterpreted. I wonder what it is, because my parents are not very nice people.
It damages my calm on a daily basis. Our society rewards sociopathy. It’s that simple. And I fucking hate it.
People who don’t realize that tolerance is a social contract will tolerate assholism, which abets the assholing.
That’s got to stop.
I do wish we could stop confusing tolerance with active support though. I don’t need to be on your team to tolerate you or your lifestyle. In fact, we don’t even need to acknowledge each other’s existence to be tolerant of one another. We just need to let each other exist unimpeded.
Yeah. Now stop being afraid and stand up to the fucking bullies. Now watch as they change the definition of “intolerant”.
“Standing up to a bully that wants to kill you? That’s Intolerant!”.
Sound familiar? The nazi with the giant hole in his neck? Oh no, I’m being intolerant. The christian terrorist nazi psychopath with the giant hole in his neck.
You won’t have a chance to be intolerant of the nazis very soon, if you don’t start fighting against the nazis in effective ways.
Ok but how do we deal with… you know… those people who destroy community for profits, who undermine us by exposing us with global competition, the people who promote laws like “right to work” and “no child left behind” to break our organizations against their power asymmetry while making us dumber and weaker, the people who rig the system with a smile without saying even one slur ?
Do we have to tolerate them if they duck us by the rules ?
That makes sense actually
WTF didn’t Popper include that obvious fact ?
Was it just taken for granted in the post world wars that assholes catch bullets ?whoa, I just realized this is basically the left-lib equivalent of the NAP.
Sadly, I think that’s the way it’s been since the beginning of humanity and I don’t see it ever changing.
Richard Dawkins lays this out nicely in The Selfish Gene.
Education is the best way to fight ignorance. Yes, there wasn’t much education more than a hundred or two years ago.
There are plenty of places on Earth right now that are functioning societies with mostly happy people. So stop being a defeatist pig headed asshole, please.
Get some education. Get others education. Keep educating if you want the world to act educated, and not barbaric. It’s really that simple, and it’s why the barbarians always gut all education first.
Seems like I struck a nerve.
Considering you know nothing about me , it’s interesting that you call me uneducated. Yet haven’t bothered to educate yourself about me.
You need to be a bit of an asshole to stand up against assholes. Nice people dont want to be assholes and bend over backwards to make concessions and accommodations.
There is a difference (to me) of what constitutes an asshole. They are hateful pricks with no concern for others.
You dont need to be an asshole to fight one, you just need to be brave enough to fight one. Of course, they are assholes and they fight dirty, you will get dirty in the process.
First step, dont be a Asshole. After that dont support one. Then, dont raise any. Finally stand up to them.
See, there are three kinds of people: dicks, pussies, and assholes. Pussies think everyone can get along, and dicks just want to fuck all the time without thinking it through. But then you got your assholes. And all the assholes want is to shit all over everything. So pussies may get mad at dicks once in a while, because pussies get fucked by dicks. But dicks also fuck assholes! And if they didn’t fuck the assholes, you know what you’d get? You’d get your dick and your pussy all covered in shit!
True wisdom in them there words
I mean, I really think the biggest thing is that so many people are fully bought into the idea that any alternative system would be just disastrous and lead to mass starvation thanks to propaganda.
But those alternatives comes with the same asholes, that’s part why they don’t function.
Yes, this is The Great Filter. We fix it or fade away.
Damn. I’ve never thought of it like that
It’s obvious from the fact that you think you can presume that you know just from what I said which of the vast diversity of socioeconomic systems I could be referring to tells me that you’re one of the people I was talking about.
The assholes generally take charge because they are self-aggrandizing assholes. I genuinely believe most people are good and trying to just get by. It is very hard to not be distracted by the mountains of daily life struggles one has to wade through because of the power hungry assholes.
They make daily struggles to distract you from them. Really.
If you can’t afford to eat, you can’t organize protests.
If you can’t afford a phone, you can’t organize protests.
If you can’t afford electricity, you can’t organize protests.
If you have to deal with christian extremist brainwashed children from religious schools, you can’t organize protests.
ETfuckingC…
If you don’t do it soon, you won’t be healthy enough to do it in the future as your healthcare is being taken away.
This is going to be an unpopular opinion because most people like to think of themselves as nice. I think it’s not so much that there are nice people and assholes, but rather that almost everyone is an asshole some of the time.
I know it may seem that way if you’re constantly online these days, but in general most people are just people. Like 80% are mostly good, but human, and may have some minor issues. Probably 10% are Jesus-level good, then 10% are sociopathically evil.
Now, if by society you mean “American capitalism”, then yes that favors assholes who care less about their fellow humans. This flavor of capitalism is inherently selfish and greedy, so those who succeed in it are the most greedy and bad people. Yes people care, but the forces preventing anyone from changing it are the strongest in the history of human civilization with technology too now, that makes it borderline impossible to change the underlying system. Only a major catastrophe caused by capitalism where millions of Americans died would cause the general populace to question the system, but honestly even then who fucking knows.
The assholes are louder or more annoying, but in my experience the vast majority of people are kind.
Selfish, childish, propagandized and mostly unthinking and amoral people are big enough pluralities in certain societies and only an ideological awakening post societal collapse could help it, yes. I mean, if you live in the West for instance, what exactly is stopping you from just “focusing on yourself”, or pushing you to be prosocial and wise? 🤷
Why tf are so many people looking forward to societal collapse?
Talk - and listen to your neighbor, join a club, get outside or something. People are naturally social animals (this is what asshole rely on).
Can’t we all just get along?Want? Some societies are unviable and actively create discord, death and misery in others who could be. It’s necessary for the world and the survival of the human race for some societies to rethink their entire “ideology” and attitudes.
I don’t think that the majority of the people talking about societal collapse really want that to happen, it’s just that history seems to be repeating itself and people are taking note.
Being shitty is much easier and takes much less effort so it prevails wherever people don’t collectively resist it.
I believe some amount of people support the assholes because some how they think (or hope) they will benefit by giving that support (especially so many of the assholes have so much power and money.) The “trickle down” effect from the assholes. Oops, might not have been the best phrase … on second thought …
