We’d have to agree on the cause of the problem and what those problems are but on of the problem is the people who like things the way they are, the people who benefit the most from the status quo, are sowing confusion about those things are.

You can see it when opposite participant in the leftright framework agree on what the problem is be have nearly completely opposed causal explanation and solutions to that problem.

We can tell the billionaire and the mainstream establishment are ducking us, manipulating us, constantly brainhacking us with advertising and addiction grooming us, that they’re buying the politics and the politicians are and aspire to be billionaires as well and have aligned their interested with the rich and powerful against us.

The problem I think IS concentration of information and social power in all its forms, whoever gets the upperhand over all of us should be getting the most scrutiny and not given the space to hide and manipulate us. Power should come with a dispelling of privacy maybe ?

That’s still not even close …

The jank oh my god the jank

Abandonware must be open sourced, publishing a new version doesn’t count as a exception.

Thanks ! In that case I think I will make a self-hosted server and client instances of all 3 plus photon and then decide which one I like !

One thing I don’t understand, the clients (and servers) have different features ? So how are they compatible with each other ? I understand the activitypub allows interoperatibility, but if piefed for crosspost agglomeration but lemmy doesn’t, how is that mismatch handled ?

Are they extensions that are just not supported like on XMPP ?

I think I’d want to run each of the 3 webui locally, to figure out which I actually like, but does that mean I should runt he 3 backends as well so that all the features work ?

Is there one backend that basically does it all and I should only run that one ? I do have plenty over ram with many HP G8 DL380 and 256gb ram each so … it’s mostly a matter of “crossing the desert” and configuring each one, which I suspect will be pretty similar but each with their own little gotcha (speaking as a self-hosting veteran, there’s always something)

There’s a difference between “AI is a bubble” and “The AI bubble will pop 2025-10-20 05h34:14.115” and “I can stay solvent longer than the market can stay irrationnal” etc… etc…

We can clearly see, the most stupidest people on the planet (gamblers) throwing money at things they don’t understand because of hype, FOMO and herd mentality, this happens REALLY often in history and even if I didn’t know way too much about how AI works, I could still point at this and say, wow, 90% of AI startup are going to crash and burn totally trying to blitzscale their impossible idea.

They’re all trying to use the crack uber business model with dotcom exhuberrance, there is no ending that doesn’t end in tears for MOST of us, even the innocent and uninvolved, they will take us all over the cliff with them and I hope we crucify the winners (thieves) before they disappear in their bunkers.

Until then we will also have to suffer incessant “OMG AI bubble gonna pop articles” EVERY WEEK until it does pop.

Is there a piefed/mbin backend server or is it just an alternative webui client ?

I’m thinking of switching to a self-hosted single user lemmy instance and run all 3 self-hosted clients to my self-hosted server, is that practical ?

Because I’m not some money parasite who bets on other people failing ?
I think the stock market is an abomination and all those who participate are deeply immoral persons.
This includes me, as my pension fund is buying and encouraging this wretched, humanity churning planet destroying garbage.

Ok but how do we deal with… you know… those people who destroy community for profits, who undermine us by exposing us with global competition, the people who promote laws like “right to work” and “no child left behind” to break our organizations against their power asymmetry while making us dumber and weaker, the people who rig the system with a smile without saying even one slur ?

Do we have to tolerate them if they duck us by the rules ?

That makes sense actually
WTF didn’t Popper include that obvious fact ?
Was it just taken for granted in the post world wars that assholes catch bullets ?

Now /u/spez will have all the power

Yes, but they are also doing this to deleverage their mods and consolidate censorship power with corporate

Is it like, a whole other network with different people or is it like a different front-end to the lemmyverse ? This is kind of confusing ? And what about that “kbin” I keep hearing about, is that the same deal ?

Look, without agglomeration there is already a strong bias for any topic to have just “one big community” on “one big server” like lemmy.ml. Because why would anyone post anywhere else than the one community with the most users.

That’s the same reason everyone is on facebook and reddit. This is a fatal flaw of Lemmy. Just because there are many servers that doesn’t resolve the problem of centralization if everyone posts in the same community of the same big server.

And no one will manually subscribe to 1500 “books” communities with 5 user each, even if they existed. The solution is a single view that sees all “books” community by default.

Basically the bubble IS the sentiment of the finance bro you are talking about.
If you work in IT, you are probably already aware that yes, AI could do a lot of shit, but it’s going to have serious downsides that might now be surmountable economically. Listen to the Tech Bros and they are promising the moon, surely you can tell they’re already have been running out of steam since GPT4 level. We’re not seeing 30% improvements, they’re fighting for single digit improvements in synthetic benchmarks.

We’ve seen this exhuberance before, history is absolutely littered with the corpse of the greedy money parasites who inflate the price of everything with their hype and try to get away with the bag before it all burns down.

When millions play chicken with a train it’s going to lead to a lot of “corrections” down the line, distortions and corrections that we are going to suffer from while they wisk away to their crypto bro bunkers leaving us to deal with their shit.

This is so predictable and obvious, our politicians “sleeping” at the wheel, paid off to look the other way, while they’ll get advance warning on their own gambles before it comes crashing down on us.

What a corrupt system, next time it fucks up, no bailout, these duckers can line up against the wall and their bunkers can get those 10 ton suppositories.

I imagine they get paid by intelligence agencies and advertising to shut down inconvenient and critical topics, positive discussions of competitors or criticing of the product, via overbroad catch all rules and moderator discretion.

Things just as likely to happen on Lemmy until every user participates in crowd sources moderation, all moderation actions become transparent and moderation are only optional action lists executed client side

(no modlog is not transparent, it’s quickly autodeleted and very hard to search, therefore difficult to audit broadly and even if you found violation, you will find only deaf ears to complain about it)

Yes, I expressed outrage at a disgusting state sanctioned murder in Iraq and suggested the invaders perpetrating these horror deserve to see the same kind of violence in their own cities. Permaban of the entire website forever. I could easily evade the ban but, this was also when the API trouble and the “reddit is fun” app stopped working. The writing was on the wall, duck that place and everyone in it. I won’t be taken hostage anymore.

I never looked back and I’m glad I did, I was wasting so much of my precious time in that ducking disgusting dump. I hope Lemmy doesn’t Septemberify for a long time. I really hope steps are taken to prevent centralization and owner dominance of Lemmy before it becomes reddit with extra steps

Hello, I assure you unkempt dirty people are fine people please do not associate us with these anti-human scums

Hello, I am here to condone copyright infrigement and advocate for the abolition of the intellectual property regime and the criminalization of pro-copyright advocacy for they are enclosers of culture and therefore the enemy of humanity and should be ground into a fine powder.

Also, abolish Michigan !

It’s also easier to slam it down, than bend and lift it up.
And peeing is more frequent when there aren’t urinals.
So everytime a pissstander arrives to a raised seat, it’s a saving of efforts
But of course, this avoid the worst problem of all.
Having to remember to do one extra thing after you’re done and ready to leave
That last one is probably THE biggest asshle of the entire discussion.