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    Nooo! Not the filosophy of Christ! We’re supposed to keep crucifying rational people and then ask for or buy some redemption 🙏

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    Catholics don’t have anything good to look forward to

    Well you’ve still got children to prey on. So you’ve got that going for you.

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    Why seem Americans to call everybody Marxist they don’t like?

    I don’t want to troll, I am really interested in an answer.

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      A Red Scare is a form of moral panic provoked by fear of the rise of left-wing ideologies in a society, especially communism and socialism. Historically, red scares have led to mass political persecution, scapegoating, and the ousting of those in government positions who have had connections with left-wing movements.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Scare

      It’s just a boogeyman word to make them sound scary. Laura Loomer literally does not know what marxist means beyond “communism”. In fact, she doesn’t even know what communism is, she has just been told it’s bad.

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          She was briefly on Trump’s plane. Around the debate with Harris. It’s likely he took the “eating the pets” line from her, since that was a rumor spread in nazi circles, particularly on Gab.

          It’s also possible they had an affair during that time. MTG got really angry with Loomer and they started trashing each other on Twitter for all to see. It was glorious.

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      Except for his covering up of child molestings and his stance on LGBT and female priesthood he seems alright.

      But that means he’s still a step down from Francis and it still means he won’t bring the church into the 21st century.

      But I guess it could have been way worse.

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      The problem is that many of the Christians in the US aren’t Catholic. Thus, it probably won’t help if the pope excommunicated them.

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    MAGA are demonic. They are literally driven by hatred and evil, and those that lead them pray only to money.

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    Jesus is NOT alright with Republicans.

    Not the Jesus of the New Testament going by his teachings, and not the Jesus that literally labors for the very food the raging hypocrites eat.

    Atheists like myself at least don’t care about Jesus Christ. But as someone raised Roman Catholic, with a grandmother that recognized the benevolent teachings of the New Testament, I can verify one of the Republican’s apparently ridiculous claims is absolutely true:

    There is absolutely a war inside America against Christianity.

    Republicans are the ones waging it though, as they worship a gold plated nepo slumlord gameshow host idol no less.

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    If Loomer hates the new pope, that’s the only endorsement I need to hear!

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      Fucking high praise and a strong endorsement right there.

      Heh, instead of the college of Cardinals, they should have just sent a list to trump and picked the one he ranted on the longest.

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      I got excited when I saw Marxist and then realized who wrote it. Genuinely thought this was gassing up the pope at first.

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    Marxist puppet? Are these “Marxists” in the room with you right now?

    Who would be pulling the strings for Marxists in 2025? Uh… Cuba? Lemmy.ml? Lenin reanimated as a Communist Lich King?

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    Let me translate for you:

    “This is the new pope.

    His name is Robert Prevost.

    He models Jesus in thought and action.

    Maga have nothing good to look forward to.

    Just another selfless caring individual in the Vatican.”

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      He’s against climate change and racism, but for homophobia and transphobia and somewhat neutral on misogyny, according to Wikipedia. I think you’re giving him too much credit.

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    Hilarious to call the pope Marxist. Wasn’t it Marx who called religion the opiate of the masses? Few communist countries tolerate religion much at all.

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        Yeah, there’s a BUNCH of Latin American Catholics that would read “Marxism = anti-religion” as news to them. (See: Liberation Theology)

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      He didn’t say that as a bad thing.

      The Communist Manifesto spends time talking about how compatible early Christian teachings are with Marx’s goals.

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        The Communist Manifesto spends time talking about how compatible early Christian teachings are with Marx’s goals.

        I mean:

        From each according to his ability, to each depending on his need

        Is literally just taken from the Bible:

        Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold, 35 And laid them down at the apostles’ feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need.

        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/From_each_according_to_his_ability,_to_each_according_to_his_needs

        But the Romans already had it:

        If x = a disadvantage, and y = action to redress that disadvantage, the principle of solidarity is: if any member of a group acquires x, each member has a duty to perform y (if they can assist). All we then need to add, to get to the fundamental principle of developed communism, is to assume that non-satisfaction of a need is a disadvantage. The corresponding principle of solidarity in respect of need says: if any member of society has an unsatisfied need, each member has a duty to produce its object (if they can). But that is precisely what the principle ‘from each according to their abilities, to each according to their needs!’ dictates. In Marx’s vision, the basic principle of developed communism is a principle of solidarity in respect of need.

        Capitalism in any form is an incredibly recent development, and the reason European colonialism was so successful is they made “deals” with people who had no idea what scale things were working on.

        It’s like if a friend’s older brother ever “taught” you how to throw dice, by the time you get a grip on the rules, you’ve lost all your money and dude’s dipped out of the house.

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      As with the “abolition of private property” people quotes what’s convenient. The whole quote goes:

      Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people.

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      To be fair a lot of the quotes attributed to Marx were just common phrases he rephrased, or a giant wall of text reduced by someone else to a memorable quote stripped of all context:

      The foundation of irreligious criticism is: Man makes religion, religion does not make man. Religion is, indeed, the self-consciousness and self-esteem of man who has either not yet won through to himself, or has already lost himself again. But man is no abstract being squatting outside the world. Man is the world of man – state, society. This state and this society produce religion, which is an inverted consciousness of the world, because they are an inverted world. Religion is the general theory of this world, its encyclopaedic compendium, its logic in popular form, its spiritual point d’honneur, its enthusiasm, its moral sanction, its solemn complement, and its universal basis of consolation and justification. It is the fantastic realization of the human essence since the human essence has not acquired any true reality. The struggle against religion is, therefore, indirectly the struggle against that world whose spiritual aroma is religion.

      Religious suffering is, at one and the same time, the expression of real suffering and a protest against real suffering. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people.

      The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is the demand for their real happiness. To call on them to give up their illusions about their condition is to call on them to give up a condition that requires illusions. The criticism of religion is, therefore, in embryo, the criticism of that vale of tears of which religion is the halo.

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_of_the_people#Full_quotation_and_history

      And it came from an unpublished response to someone else’s work. After he was dead his follower pared all of that down to:

      Religion is the opium of the masses

      And let everyone who heard it, believe it meant whatever they think it means.

      Always be wary of authoritarians that are given credit for “speaking plainly” but aren’t actually saying anything. Being vague and letting the person interpret it however they want us basic grifting. All that matters is you’re gaining their confidence.