Should I invest in sex now that it’s low?
Yes. Put it all on options.
I’ma short that shit to the ground
Like a short was really your choice. You’d love to go long, if you could.
I just find the concept hilarious. Borrow some expensive… sex… to then immediately sell it… then regularly pay lender with small amount of sex as a fee for the sex loan… then when the time is right buy some cheap sex, return sex to lender… and that’s how one gets sex when sex is in decline.
Nah its going to rock bottom
Not if I have any say in the matter!
…yeah, it’s going to rock bottom.
Maybe that’s the problem. A lot of the ladies I know say that sort of thing is uncomfortable.
Women are avoiding men. For all sorts of reasons that I think most of you are aware of. It’s a huge turn off to be with someone who thing you are lower than them. Who thinks you don’t deserve basic human rights.
It’s a huge mood killer.
Women also are feeling like they have the ability to refuse when before they didn’t.
Women are also scared of pregnancy in a way they haven’t been since the fecking 1900s.
Because now, you get pregnant. A doctor will let you die before they will provide medical care if that medical care has any chance of harming a fetus. Even if the fetus is dead.
Women are dying from pregnancy. Women are no longer able to terminate an early pregnancy safely.
Women are scared.
*I realize not every sex encounter is a man and woman. But most of the population is hetero.
It’s a huge turn off to be with someone who thing you are lower than them. Who thinks you don’t deserve basic human rights.
While I don’t disagree with this theory, I wonder why you would think that this is a recent development.
The awareness is relatively recent. “The woman place is in the kitchen” is not an old thing.
Perhaps there is a comfort in expressing these beliefs now when before there was not?
That is what I thought I said, yes.
Can I also add in stress and other environmental factors?
It’s a huge turn off to be with someone who thing you are lower than them. Who thinks you don’t deserve basic human rights.
Are you basing this on dating app matches? It might be a case of survivor bias
To elaborate, what’s possibly happening is that only the assholes of society are the ones having a disproportionate level of exposure/influence on these apps because the good ones cycle out of it quickly enough when they find their viable partners. And then these assholes, who in fact represent a minority of the actual population, end up staining everyone else’s opinions by making them think these people are the majority of peoples’ behaviours.
I don’t know… While this certainly has made a comeback in the last couple of years (thanks to rise of fucking Nazi shits all over the world), there has been a positive development.
I actually believe it has more to do with the ever increasing “efficiency” at work and addictive media (YouTube, social media, Netflix, etc.). People just don’t have time for sex anymore, because there are quicker ways to get your dopamine fixed. This is also why people don’t go out and socialize anymore. Social media is actually very antisocial.
World of Warcraft 😁
There’s a considerable uptick just before 2010, so WoW players must’ve been having lots of sex during WotLK years
From a top raid trainer at the time, “Knock down drag-out fight, killed 'em and looted ‘em. Finally log off at the end of the raid, and?’ WoW Players in WotLK say, ‘Tough fight. Boss is down, I’m alive. Finally get to bed at the end of the run, and?’ They all say, 'The best sex I’ve had in months.”
Lack of genuine idle time breeds … non-breeding.
People are just not very attractive nowadays
I blame the GenZ broccoli haircut.
- People are more willing to be honest now.
- How much of that sex in the past had the same amount of consent?
It says 1990 not 1900!
You think 1990 where a time of full consent and awareness about other sensitivities? Oh boy.
Things were definitely different to today, but I think the factors you listed are not enough to explain the massive decline in that graph.
Things like economic insecurity, cost of housing, increasing isolation / changes in living circumstances, and medication are all likely to be significant factors in my opinion.
My wife and I go through hot & cold spells. I think we have similar drives, but our timing doesn’t always match up. I’m more of a “harness the power of the morning wood” sort of fellow. She’s more of a “I want it right now but he’s still at work” sort of gal. We both talk a big game, but work, childcare and adulting conspire against us.
I have a really high sex drive and I’ve never been in a relationship where I consistently got it often enough to be satisfied so I stopped trying. It also doesn’t help that my living situation is not conducive to bringing people home with me.
I’ve also never been in a relationship that totally satisfied my sex drive, so I feel this a lot. My fiance used to be very sexual like me, but then she went on antidepressants and that was kinda killed. Now, she’s off then again, but her sex drive never rebounded, even though she thinks I’m more attractive now that I’ve been working out and gained muscle. Just sad to be jerking off in the office or bathroom every day instead of being intimate with someone you love because they don’t want to have sex with you 🫤
I don’t blame her or anything, it just hurts my soul a bit. Her sex drive is so low now that I feel guilty and anxious even asking, because I know she’ll either reject it outright or just tolerate it if she really wants to make me happy that day, which kills it for me.
I’d say we only really have sex where we’re both equally enjoying it maybe once every few weeks to once a month. If her drive were the same as mine, that would be once or twice a day. Just a shitty situation for me.
I don’t blame her or anything, it just hurts my soul a bit. Her sex drive is so low now that I feel guilty and anxious even asking, because I know she’ll either reject it outright or just tolerate it if she really wants to make me happy that day, which kills it for me.
Yeah, I’m single now and intend to stay that way but I don’t blame my exes or hold it against women as a whole. It’s just a fact of life. It has bothered me enough to end relationships over it but it was just about the incompatibility not any malice towards them. I’d much rather just hang out as friends and not have that “is she going to be in the mood or not?” question running in my head the whole time or feeling shitty if I make a move and get shot down, or worry that they’re feeling like I’m trying to pressure them into something. It just creates a bad situation and stresses me out because it’s not like I can just turn it off. I’ve tried jacking off but my shit recovers too fast when I’m around a woman that I like for that to help.
Although I feel sorry for you and your situation, I honestly wonder, how someone can jerk off in the office…
Home office!!!
Monogamist problems.
Gotta have both a partner and time to have sex ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Spousal Rape Laws started getting enforced finally.
An ex once who told me that she had a rape fetish, was totally into it. I was against it but since she was longing for it so badly I told her “I‘ll do it during week 18 but I won’t tell you when” and she was excited.
Long story short: she enjoyed it while it lasted but cried afterwards because I was too harsh.
Years later I ran into her husband and it turned out that she has BPD.
I am very lucky to have had a written contract back then.
I think generally you’d want to start smaller when trying any CNC stuff. But hey, a lot of kinks exist only in our minds but aren’t something people want to try, and sometimes we find out the hard way. I hope you two have each other the aftercare needed to move past that.
Of course we did! CNC without aftercare is unacceptable
💜💜💜
So we’re gonna see it go back up?
I’d say a larger part of the population being aware that they can reject “unsolicited requests” is a part of it.
Also, it requires meeting people to some extent. That sounds boring.
The best answer is how anti depressants which at least 20% of those in the USA take ---- depresses the sex drive for both males and females.
I’m also going to think the absinence-only education plays a role. I know people in their 20s today who didn’t understand: lube, protection, HIV, pregnancy. Some of them were HIV+ before they knew what happened. People are confused and uneducated. Thanks Christians!
11.4% take anti depressants and between 40-65% experience some degree of sexual dysfunction so even using the highest numbers and assuming that the sexual dysfunction completely eliminates interest in sex (it doesn’t) that would only be 7.41%
No anti-depressants here. I’m depressed as shit. Ladies?
That’s some b.s rfk was saying. That’s not the cause. Dysfunction is not the same as low sex drive. It can mean any number of things.
Women are avoiding men. For all sorts of reasons that I think most of you are aware of.
Women also are feeling like they have the ability to refuse when before they didn’t.
Women are also scared of pregnancy in a way they haven’t been since the fecking 1900s.
Because now, you get pregnant. A doctor will let you die before they will provide medical care if that medical care has any chance of harming a fetus. Even if the fetus is dead.
Women are dying from pregnancy. Women are no longer able to terminate an early pregnancy safely.
Women are scared.
Yeah uhm…women would be the ones loosing here not men…
I mean what? Women will just resign themselves to being femcels forever?
That sounds depressing, even more than being resigned to being a male incel
trend was before any new abortion bans. You probably cannot consider men avoiding women, but that is likely a larger overall factor.
Not enough foreskin in America
You’d have to compare this graph to data from elsewhere in the world, though. Especially in the Western world.
Also, the fact that sex is less fun for men when most of their genitals’ nerve endings have been cut off does not mean it’s being performed less.
Probably depression, online dating ruining the entire dating world, and the economy sucking.
I remember growing up, you could go to a bar with friends, meet some people and there was always someone hooking up quickly. Or you grabbed a phone number and you were good for later.
Now it’s more “are you 6 foot tall?” “do you make six figures?” “what’s your snap or insta?” “are you a racist nazi that will murder me in my sleep?”
Then they can always say, ehhh, your not attractive enough for me, i’ll go on tinder and DM one of the 60 guys waiting for me. BYEEEEEEEE
It could be the aging population. If 100% of people 20-40 have sex and 0% of 40-60 then that’s 50% if both groups are equally strong.
Now if it’s 1/3 and 2/3 then it’s only 33%.
