Ah yes, I see the history understander has logged on again…
If a Serbian nationalist hadn’t shot the damn archduke of Austria then Hideki Tojo wouldn’t’ve sank the majority of the US pacific fleet decades later.
Are you sure you want to credit us with all that? First the invisible bombers…
Butterfly affect. You literally just made it rain here. Do you have no decency? How dare you!?!
I first read it as “archdude” and i hereby start a petition to normalize this word
The archdude archabides
Honestly, this doesn’t even make enough sense to be a shitpost
I think, in this case, that’s what makes it a shitpost.
OOP asks a valid question, though. I don’t remember what Serbia did, either.
The actual answer is ethnic cleansing in Bosnia and Kosovo, the former of which was the first post-WWII genocide legally recognised by the ICJ
Who knew coup’ing the USSR to force them back into an ultranationalist shithole was gonna trigger wars
It was the death of Tito that threw Yugoslavia into chaos.
ah yes, the equally competent and incompetent natoids strike again.
Why did the Soviet Union break up? Why did the Soviet Union collapse? An important reason is that the struggle in the ideological field is very fierce, the comprehensive denial of the history of the Soviet Union and the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, the denial of Lenin, the negation of Stalin, the historical nihilism, the ideological chaos, the Party organizations at all levels have almost no effect, the army is not under the leadership of the Party. Finally, the Soviet Communist Party’s largest party was scattered, and the Soviet Union’s largest socialist country fell apart.
- Xi Jinping (translated by Firefox)
Even ignoring the claim of a coup, please explain how you think the USSR collapsing in 1991 is responsible for the ethnic tensions in Yugoslavia that bubbled up years earlier
Are you dumb? Switching from an internationalist ideological block to a bunch of ethno-state caused war. It’s not that hard to grasp.
Same thing with Russia and Ukraine. Yeltsin was in Washington the day before the end of gorbatchev
The USSR was just a Russian empire that pretended to be some international socialist brotherhood. Imperialism is married to the Russian identity and that didnt stop just because the Bolsheviks killed the royal family.
Oh, right, you’re just intentionally trolling. Cool.
Sorry your retarded jingoist brain can’t take the truth. Good luck sucking dat murikan dik
What? Are you an idiot? The USSR had its flaw but it did keep nationalisms at bay. Once it collapsed people became fascists again. What’s not to understand? Murikans were perfectly happy opening mc Donalds while Easterners were starving
Who couped the USSR? Their sister republics simply demanded more freedom and that caused the fragile and economically bankrupt system to collapse
To be fair, there was an attempted coup in the USSR during its collapse. It was by communist hardliners trying to prevent it collapsing, though, which doesn’t exactly scream “NATO” to me
Yeltsin was as much under american boot as trump is simping for the russian
Yeltsin was in Washington 3 days before he took power, retard
And supported by Britain and Germany until it became abundantly clear what was really going on there.
Moreover, as the meme indicates, their citizenry continues to feel as though the intervention was unwarranted. at least in large part. No state-level population is a monolith.
They know what they did, they just want to do it again.
Thank you. I had forgotten about that horrible little bit of history.
It’s also a reason why there’s Bill Clinton statue in Prishtinë
I guess it’s a shitpost because Hawaii is not technically covered by NATO…
True, it’s the only member of the NPTO instead
…what…?
hehe NATO, the alliance for “peace”
Okay, can you think of a reason Russia “only” attacked* Georgia and Ukraine in the recent past and not say Estonia, Latvia or Lithuania?
As a small nation you have two options:
- Build alliances and search senior partners
- Die
* attacked as in boots on the ground. They engaging in cyber attacks and other forms of physical and online sabotage in many European countries
NATO is the reason Russia is an ultranationalist shithole in the first place idiot.
Remember the 90ies?
Poor Russia, had no agency at all. Had no choice but to become an ultranationalist shithole because NATO forced them to.
No, they are an alliance for defense. Nothing peaceful about it, they will fuck you up with military force if you mess with any one of their member states.
No, they are an alliance for defense. Nothing peaceful about it, they will fuck you up with military force if you mess with any one of the US’s economic interests.
There, FTFY
But that’s not true. Why do you guys repeat such propaganda without question? Countless nations have messed with the US’s economic interests throughout history, how many times has NATO gotten involved?
The point is that “NATO” is an umbrella term for “US’s interests” or “US military”.
The US can and absolutely does wreck shit up for the sake of their own interests, regardless of international law. “NATO” only comes into play when either other countries are willing to step in or the US might need a veneer of legitimacy.The point is that “NATO” is an umbrella term for “US’s interests” or “US military”.
Well if we’re just misusing words and making things up, shit, why not say “DPRK” is an umbrella term for “US’s interests”?
I think you might need to engage in some self-reflection and consider whether you may have been influenced by Russian/Chinese propaganda. There is no rational reason to have a problem with the existence of NATO.
They also bribe your politicians to buy more missiles
No they don’t. Stop repeating propaganda.
Are you aware of the actual reason that NATO bombed Yugoslavia?
Oh, .ml, that explains it.
tankie detected. opinion rejected. *
Oh, .ml, that explains it.
Mayb imma jus lil fresh around here but what does that have to do with anythin?
Given that you’re on a two day old account, I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt.
.ml is notoriously run by, and has a large population of tankies - people who support China and Russia, and defend or deny their countless atrocities. I.E. people who deny the Tiananmen Square Massacre, and say Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and all the war crimes they’ve committed are justified. Basically, anything done by a government that opposes the US is considered a good thing, no matter how evil.
Edit: Adding what Brucethemoose said into my comment directly because its important. Being critical of the US or NATO doesn’t make you a tankie. The problem is excusing genocide because it was commited by someone outside NATO or the US allies.
Worldists are notorious genocide supporters
And to be clear, the larger part of non-tankie Lemmy is just fine acknowledging recent, heinous western atrocities, though doesn’t give NATO quite as much thought I suppose (in lieu of the raging dumpster fires in our own backyards).
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“The US foreign policy enforcement gang”
NATO doesn’t really do much other than scare Russia and China. There were a couple of debatable interventions in Europe, and the US did demand everyone join them in Afghanistan, but not Iraq, for example. NATO doesn’t just automatically go where America goes. They have actual rules that have to be cited, like Article 5.
The rest of the world were willing participants in Afghanistan. The US didn’t have to do anything to “force” them.
Iraq and Afghanistan are interlinked stories, but the way they played out with world support was very, very different.
Afghanistan was a NATO Article 5 mission. We didn’t stick around a minute after the NATO mission was over.
And nobody especially objected to it. Not even much from outside of NATO, excepting Afghanistan itself.
They also corrupting politicians to make them buy fighter jets while our grandmas are literally dying of starvation in understaffed hospitals
NATO isn’t corrupting anyone. And I’m Canadian, my grandma’s doing alright.
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