Biden’s ineffective leadership and the centrist DNC gave America another Trump term. Trump should have been locked up immediately for their coup attempt.
For the record, I vote in every election including the primaries.
There’s nothing more reliable than a centrist attacking the base of the party for each and every single one of their losses. I’ve yet to hear Harris or HRC talk about their inept campaigns that keep trying to attract Republicans to vote for Democrats. It’s never going to happen. Maybe we can have a Cheney run the DNC.
Are you calling me a centrist based on a single, 6 word comment on an internet forum and implying that I’m the one that’s irrational? You don’t know anything about me.
Enjoy creeping my post history to get one over one me I guess.
Sorry, trans folks have to have a longer time horizon than you might. If Democrats are allowed to slide into a full anti-trans platform, as their sister party in the UK did, then trans rights will be set back generations. If Democrats are allowed to abandon trans rights, it will be 50 years before those rights are regained.
Look, I just don’t respect someone mansplaining to minority group members about how you know their best interests better than they do. It’s arrogance of the highest order. For trans folks, the danger represented by having both parties be anti-trans exceeds the danger of even another Trump term. At least Trump is an old fat fuck who’s going to die soon. The Democrats going the way of Labor in the UK will subject American trans people to state repression for decades to come, with no hope of voting in any party who will help us. Frankly, from my perspective, it’s better for the Democratic party to completely die off than it is to allow anti-trans bigots to win simply because they have a D next to their name. At least then space would be cleared for an actual worker’s party to rise up. But really, for trans people, an anti-trans Democratic party is a much much greater threat than another Trump term. Because ultimately, state repression is state repression whether it’s wearing a red tie or a blue tie.
I’m looking decades into the future; you’re myopically focused on tomorrow.
Don’t want trans people to stay home? Simple. Don’t nominate a bigot for the Democratic candidate. You have three years notice. If you simply can’t help yourself and nominate a bigot anyway, don’t blame minority groups for refusing to vote for their oppressors. You’ll have no one to blame but yourself.
And frankly, at this point, anyone still saying, “vote blue no matter who” is a brain-dead muppet. It’s obvious now that that rallying cry is a one-way street. Progressives are supposed to hold their nose and vote for bigots, but that expectation never extends the other way. It’s just a cudgel used to blame minority groups for refusing to vote for their own oppression.
This is ignoring reality and consequences of elections so hard that it reads like a right wing troll cosplaying a liberal. Congratulations, your argument is so shortsighted and devoid of insight that it is indistinguishable from satire.
They’re not cosplaying a liberal, it’s a pretty normal take among Leftists who criticize liberals. And more broadly, Democrats made “being the lesser evil” their main campaign strategy for so long that people are getting numb to it.
Don’t forget to not vote next midterms or primaries to show Newsom and the Dems we mean business!
Sorry. I’m not voting for an anti trans bigot, even if they happen to have a D next to their name.
Fortunately, the odds of protest non-voters in California allowing a Republican to win is extremely low.
Who are you gonna vote for?
Thanks for Trump a second time.
Biden’s ineffective leadership and the centrist DNC gave America another Trump term. Trump should have been locked up immediately for their coup attempt.
For the record, I vote in every election including the primaries.
There’s nothing more reliable than a centrist attacking the base of the party for each and every single one of their losses. I’ve yet to hear Harris or HRC talk about their inept campaigns that keep trying to attract Republicans to vote for Democrats. It’s never going to happen. Maybe we can have a Cheney run the DNC.
Are you calling me a centrist based on a single, 6 word comment on an internet forum and implying that I’m the one that’s irrational? You don’t know anything about me.
Enjoy creeping my post history to get one over one me I guess.
Sorry, i misread the order of the comments on my device. My mistake.
Sorry, trans folks have to have a longer time horizon than you might. If Democrats are allowed to slide into a full anti-trans platform, as their sister party in the UK did, then trans rights will be set back generations. If Democrats are allowed to abandon trans rights, it will be 50 years before those rights are regained.
Look, I just don’t respect someone mansplaining to minority group members about how you know their best interests better than they do. It’s arrogance of the highest order. For trans folks, the danger represented by having both parties be anti-trans exceeds the danger of even another Trump term. At least Trump is an old fat fuck who’s going to die soon. The Democrats going the way of Labor in the UK will subject American trans people to state repression for decades to come, with no hope of voting in any party who will help us. Frankly, from my perspective, it’s better for the Democratic party to completely die off than it is to allow anti-trans bigots to win simply because they have a D next to their name. At least then space would be cleared for an actual worker’s party to rise up. But really, for trans people, an anti-trans Democratic party is a much much greater threat than another Trump term. Because ultimately, state repression is state repression whether it’s wearing a red tie or a blue tie.
I’m looking decades into the future; you’re myopically focused on tomorrow.
Don’t want trans people to stay home? Simple. Don’t nominate a bigot for the Democratic candidate. You have three years notice. If you simply can’t help yourself and nominate a bigot anyway, don’t blame minority groups for refusing to vote for their oppressors. You’ll have no one to blame but yourself.
And frankly, at this point, anyone still saying, “vote blue no matter who” is a brain-dead muppet. It’s obvious now that that rallying cry is a one-way street. Progressives are supposed to hold their nose and vote for bigots, but that expectation never extends the other way. It’s just a cudgel used to blame minority groups for refusing to vote for their own oppression.
This is ignoring reality and consequences of elections so hard that it reads like a right wing troll cosplaying a liberal. Congratulations, your argument is so shortsighted and devoid of insight that it is indistinguishable from satire.
Thank you for composing the reply I thought but couldn’t be arsed for after reading that drivel.
They’re not cosplaying a liberal, it’s a pretty normal take among Leftists who criticize liberals. And more broadly, Democrats made “being the lesser evil” their main campaign strategy for so long that people are getting numb to it.
You know who’s even more anti-trans than Gavin Newsom? The fascists currently controlling every branch of the federal government.
So are your saying that voting for Democrats or Republicans is the same thing?
Obviously not.
Republicans: Yes to genocide
Democrats: WE SEE YOU, WE HEAR YOU, but also yes to genocide
Does the fact that one party wast to let the populace shape the narrative, vs the iron fist of fascism?
Please tell me you can acknowledge this fundamental fact, it will help me gauge the rest of your responses
No. Notice they said “even more anti-trans,” not “just as anti-trans.”
I didn’t realize there was an acceptable level of bigotry
There is bad bigotry and worse bigotry. If you don’t have the option of no bigotry, you choose bad. Harm reduction.
Doesn’t like “mansplaining”
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