• WoodScientist@lemmy.world
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    Sorry, trans folks have to have a longer time horizon than you might. If Democrats are allowed to slide into a full anti-trans platform, as their sister party in the UK did, then trans rights will be set back generations. If Democrats are allowed to abandon trans rights, it will be 50 years before those rights are regained.

    Look, I just don’t respect someone mansplaining to minority group members about how you know their best interests better than they do. It’s arrogance of the highest order. For trans folks, the danger represented by having both parties be anti-trans exceeds the danger of even another Trump term. At least Trump is an old fat fuck who’s going to die soon. The Democrats going the way of Labor in the UK will subject American trans people to state repression for decades to come, with no hope of voting in any party who will help us. Frankly, from my perspective, it’s better for the Democratic party to completely die off than it is to allow anti-trans bigots to win simply because they have a D next to their name. At least then space would be cleared for an actual worker’s party to rise up. But really, for trans people, an anti-trans Democratic party is a much much greater threat than another Trump term. Because ultimately, state repression is state repression whether it’s wearing a red tie or a blue tie.

    I’m looking decades into the future; you’re myopically focused on tomorrow.

    Don’t want trans people to stay home? Simple. Don’t nominate a bigot for the Democratic candidate. You have three years notice. If you simply can’t help yourself and nominate a bigot anyway, don’t blame minority groups for refusing to vote for their oppressors. You’ll have no one to blame but yourself.

    And frankly, at this point, anyone still saying, “vote blue no matter who” is a brain-dead muppet. It’s obvious now that that rallying cry is a one-way street. Progressives are supposed to hold their nose and vote for bigots, but that expectation never extends the other way. It’s just a cudgel used to blame minority groups for refusing to vote for their own oppression.

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      This is ignoring reality and consequences of elections so hard that it reads like a right wing troll cosplaying a liberal. Congratulations, your argument is so shortsighted and devoid of insight that it is indistinguishable from satire.

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        Thank you for composing the reply I thought but couldn’t be arsed for after reading that drivel.

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        They’re not cosplaying a liberal, it’s a pretty normal take among Leftists who criticize liberals. And more broadly, Democrats made “being the lesser evil” their main campaign strategy for so long that people are getting numb to it.

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      You know who’s even more anti-trans than Gavin Newsom? The fascists currently controlling every branch of the federal government.

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            Republicans: Yes to genocide

            Democrats: WE SEE YOU, WE HEAR YOU, but also yes to genocide

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              Does the fact that one party wast to let the populace shape the narrative, vs the iron fist of fascism?

              Please tell me you can acknowledge this fundamental fact, it will help me gauge the rest of your responses

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                Both parties fully engage in Manufactured Consent if that’s what you’re trying to say though not entirely clear. Also, Republicans are embracing not opposing Fascism in line with their drift to the far right over the years.