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Conservatives are the school shooter. Conservatives are the cops sitting outside for an hour. Progressives are trying to seize enough of a majority to stop the shooter and regulate gun ownership to prevent future shootings.
Things must be getting bad, seems like a big uptick in “both sides” memes lately
Wouldn’t call this a both sides meme necessarily, it criticizes Democrats for being ineffective and not doing their job right, while Republicans are clearly the root cause of the entire problem in the first place.
Just in time for mid term elections to sway the independent/on the fence voters away from voting Democrat.
While Democrats deserve their fair share of criticisms, it is nothing compared to how Republicans shifted their ideology to fascism/nazism. A vote for a republican is a vote for nazi’s.
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Democrats deserve their fair share of criticisms
you need to all shut up and only say nice things
Dude what
As per this meme
“I want to be on the side who murders children for fun”
Or
“I’m too.chickenshit to stop people murdering children for fun”
If I have to be on one side I’m not picking the willfully murdering children side
It’s gotta be hard to call this a “both sides” meme when it is literally reality. And don’t even get me started on how there are more liberals than fascists.
Are the Democrats going to start acting like their colleagues are Nazis? That would be cool. To be fair, I do like Newsom pushing for redistricting and the Democrats not backing down on the shutdown.
The shutdown prevented the last jobs report from coming out. The payroll company ADP released theirs and it’s not good
You’re “overthinking” it. There are only like 8 states that count votes anyway
Isn’t the government shut down. I dont know what magical powers you think they have. Give them a majority, I guarantee things wont be as shit as they are today. Won’t be sunshine and rainbows either but if you want to eat the turd sandwich over smelling a fart, thats on you.
Huh? The government shutdown like a day ago. But yes, a true unobstructed majority would certainly improve things.
Ok, 15, not 1. Trump’s term is now nearly a year in, which is significantly more than 2 weeks.
I said shut it down 9 months ago but Schumer doesn’t take notes from me.
Key thing moving forward is to just recognize when the dems are doing something, anything, and give what ever support you can muster. The truth is the fix is in. Voting machines, compromised, voting rights act, gutted. We are locked into an accelerationist wet dream and the true consequences are slowly making their way to you. Won’t be long before you really start to feel them. Like its October and havent even worn a sweater yet. Like global warming you ain’t cooked until you feel the boil.
I would still rather have the coward cops in charge than the active shooter
I want more options. The coward cop is perfectly willing to compromise and work across the aisle with the shooter to kill fewer kids because the idea of zero murdered children is a radical idea to the cowardly cop. He’s like “I’ll get to the bottom of this situation find out how many kids he needs to kill. If he says five I’ll get him down to three. Then we’ll work together with the parents of these kids and find out whose kids will live, together as a nation.”
People who want no kids killed in the situation are exremists, according to the cowardly cop, who want him to pass a purity test like “stop the shooter before he kills more kids”
So I want an option that says “I will actively stop school shooters frol shooting schools” but people who want the cop aren’t willing to betray the cop’s legacy and admit he needs to be fucking fired yesterday, so the next shooter, if there’s a school left, will actually be stopped or the new cop can be actually held accountable for failing so horribly without an army of unthinking drones defending them.
I totally agree.
Having the coward cop In Charge means that the shooter will eventually be in charge. Because the coward is a coward
And the dbzer0 shits are the ones criticising on the internet while doing fuckall.
Where does that put everyone who didn’t vote?
They’re in the short bus parked outside.
They’re the people that stay home and make whiny memes about how bad it is and then go on about their lives doing nothing at all to change it.
while you… ?
VOTE.
That word is derogatory to the non voters.
I can never know. I’d have probably done what the cop did. You can’t train for that. And his mind was probably racing with the idea that if he entered the room, it could have resulted in many more deaths.
I’m not sure I could live with that….
But as far as me? I voted. So I’m exempt form any persecution as a result of our current shitshow.
I voted harris, but I don’t stop there and I will absolutely not defend her or democrats. Never voting democrat again if fascism is on the line.
Well, all I can say is if you won’t stand in its way, you better learn to enjoy the fascism.
Let us know how performative non participation works out for you.
Amen.
Unless you vote for anti-capitalists, opposition to fascism won’t happen. So get to it.
Why you people keep thinking rich liberals are going to bring the fight to fascists is beyond me.
Hilarious! Thanks for the response!
Reading the news saying “how horrible. There is nothing we can do.”
Kinda off topic, but I hate seeing this picture.
But to Uvalde residents and officials investigating the shooting, the footage showed something else. The officer depicted is Ruben Ruiz, whose wife, Eva Mireles, lay dying inside one of the classrooms with the gunman.
Mireles told Ruiz in a phone call that she had been shot. Ruiz, standing in the hallway with his pistol drawn, was unable to get to her. Other officers ultimately escorted Ruiz from the scene and took his gun. Mireles was alive when police transported her from the classroom, but she died before reaching the hospital.
So maybe let’s not post this any more?
Yeah that’s a tough situation, man. On the one hand you’d risk anything to save your wife’s life. On the other hand you have to guarantee above all that your kids don’t lose BOTH their parents.
The job he took should demand he focus first on saving all possible victims. No, he should not have to guarantee that above all, he’s paid to prioritize saving victims.
Watch this from PBS:
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/documentary/inside-the-uvalde-response/
It was more complicated than running in guns blazing. Which, yeah, they should have done, in retrospect. Yeah, they should have trained for such an event, in retrospect.
I’m not excusing the cops, and neither does the documentary, but the whole event was a Bulgarian clusterfuck of Biblical proportions.
CAVEAT: Gonna take some guts to make it the whole hour on that documentary, but you gotta do it if you want to form an opinion.
EDIT: Apparently the downvoters don’t have to the balls to face evidence. How so very conservative.
There’s no simple tl;dr: soundbite here. But if y’all want to stick to what you learn from headlines, you’re no better than the fascists who do the exact same thing. We are not on the same “side”.
It’s a common event in America and an easily predictable possibility. No, they should’ve been fully trained for it even from a perspective prior to the event. Doubly so in gun and maga ridden texas
You didn’t have time to watch the video before you posted this. Your opinion means nothing until you have done so, then we can have a reasoned discussion. That was rather the point of my whole fucking post.
This is why I don’t seek leftist allies IRL. You are no better than conservative, FaceBook Boomers. You believe everything fed to you in your chosen echo chamber(s). Your opinion is molded by sound bites.
Most of you people comment without reading past the headline. FFS, most online media these days is written at a 4th-grade level and most Americans can’t read past 6th.
…what? I don’t need to watch the video to understand the basic facts of reality in America. I’m not watching gore just so that I won’t change my mind as it will not present any information that would change the reality of America.
You have 4th grade statistical analysis skills if you think it wasn’t a predictable and important to learn to deal with probability.
That was rather the point of my whole fucking post.
And your post was wrong dipshit.
You believe everything fed to you in your chosen echo chamber(s). Your opinion is molded by sound bites.
That’s a hilarious take. The number of people with my circle of politics beliefs is so rare that I can barely even find one to have a circle with. My opinions are home grown thank you!
You’re not wrong. But this situation is so twisted that it is almost like a philosophy thought experiment. Obviously he’s thinking about more than just his job protocols.
I don’t mean to be mean or pedantic, but the police are not paid to save victims, or even prevent crimes or enforce morals. They are paid to enforce the law, and nothing else.
Its why a major part as to why they suck so bad.
In this case, stopping the shooter was enforcing the law, because the shooter was doing something highly illegal
But they will put the police out of business!
It is against the law to shoot people.
And even then, enforcing the law is what they do in their spare time if they feel like it. Even calling them Law Enforcement is a stretch.
I mean if we’re being 💯, then they’re paid to enforce the law for wealthy capitalists. They don’t give a shit if your house gets robbed.
I think it’s more about the stress and ability to perform in that situation. Saying leaving isn’t his decision.
Such a coward he wouldn’t even save his wife.
See the documentary and get back to me:
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/documentary/inside-the-uvalde-response/
It’ll take an hour, and it will fucking hurt. Man the fuck up and have a look before you mouth off. SPOILER: It doesn’t make excuses for the cops. But it ain’t what you think either.
EDIT: Seems some pussies aren’t able to handle actual evidence. Huh. How very conservative.
What would you have done?
What would any one of us done if we had a gun and a vest and our family was in trouble? Obey orders, of course.
Educate yourself, get back to me on that:
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/documentary/inside-the-uvalde-response/
Right. See there’s the issue. Had he gone in, there is no way to know if it would have escalated the issue and more people would have died including himself or worse, more children.
It’s easy to sit on the sidelines and yell at the players in the game. We can pretend all day that we know what we’d do or even what the best thing to do would be-
But at the end of the day- until you’re put in the situation yourself, it’s best to keep the armchair edits to ourselves.
Agreed.
in the situation yourself
Not listening to people who want to take my AR-15 which is, as my 9-yo son stated, “the deadliest gun in the whole world!” LOL, it fires a hauling ass .22 bullet.
I hate cops, but this thing was fucking rough in so many ways. Almost every comment I read online is full of shit. I’ve posted the PBS documentary several times already, but you may also be interested. It’s a hard watch, but if you want to understand, you gotta.
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/documentary/inside-the-uvalde-response/
It is the best possible example how useless the police are, and why they should be changed/removed.
But that cop was only useless because he was prevented from taking action by other cops. It’s not his fault
So whats the excuse of the other 30 cops there that day? Why do we spend half our municipal budgets on militarized police when they are just gonna sit aroind and do nothing during am emergency?
And if his wife wasn’t in there he wouldn’t have been pushing to go in.
He would have been one of the pigs stopping the federal agent who was trying to go in, they actively aided in the murder of those kids
That’s not the framing of this meme though, it’s clearly meant to make the officer in the picture look bad.
He looks bad without the picture too.
If it was a different cop’s wife what do you think he would have done? He would have prevented that cop from going to save her. They only care when it happens to them. He should not have let his buddies drag him away and maybe his wife and some of those kids would still be here
He should not have let his buddies drag him away and maybe his wife and some of those kids would still be here
No, that is the point. I am not saying this particular cop is weak or not doing his job, I am saying the problem is systematic, we as people should not allow this situation to happen at first place.
Unfortunately unless we as citizens are dedicated (investing the time too coordinate and act) and educated (about the topics at hands, including the ones we do not care about) enough for anarchy we do need representatives.
If we are not ready for anarchism then we need a system with representatives. They do not have to be professionals and they could be temporary (e.g. max N years/mandate) or part time (e.g. max 10hrs/week) or whatever other rules we deem required.
If we are not ready for either then we leave a power vacuum that will be taken by whomever is more powerful, including those ready to use power in the most unethical ways, bribing, coercion, murder, etc.
So… even though 99.99% of politicians might be corrupt, maybe 99.999% even started uncorrupted (funnily enough not even a word in my browser dictionary) but the system itself in order to reach and hold power did corrupt them, the alternative is IMHO even worst.
That being said don’t ask me to point out a .00% of uncorrupted politicians. I do have some ideas but even there I didn’t do the background check necessary so I might be biased.
Finally why do I bother writing this? Well because I worry that the power vacuum can be created and then abused by political actors outside of democracies.
Anarchy doesn’t mean chaos, a lack of social order, Mad Max, or a power vacuum. Depending on which flavor of anarchism we’re talking about, political power is distributed among the population evenly.
“You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.”
— Buckminster Fuller
I’m not sure what you are clarifying for but I can at least make my point more explicit : I didn’t use anarchism in a derogatory manner, on the contrary. I was trying to highlight that anarchism, like democracy, is demanding because it demands of its participants to actually take part.
I disagree with the assertion of a power vacuum because anarchists propose new power structures, not the chaotic capitalist strawman.
And we aren’t dedicated or educated enough for representatives either - garbage in, garbage out. Representation isn’t a filter through which bad votes become good policy. We’re destroying the biosphere at maximum speed because voters are misinformed.
I think he addressed that though. Anarchy requires knowledgable participation in small sections of the responsible governance that would normally go to representatives.
To put it in simple terms, people don’t need to know how to build bridges, but they need to understand they, as with every other person in the village, are each tasked with carrying one boulder to a piling in the river.
There is no safe way to outsource the organization of society - we all need to learn civics, or an anarchist equivalent. It’s the same voters either way, and where voters lack knowledge we see corruption, not altruistic leadership.
The intermediary layer of representatives no longer serves a useful purpose, and introduces a principal agent problem.
I don’t see how that would happen/function in reality though.
“Just want you to ask yourself: when you gain results the wrong way, what are you left with in the end? Only dark regret and a deep emptiness that have nowhere to go.” - Suzaku Kururugi
You can work within a system to change it and peacefully push for change from the outside.
Hint: They’re both republicans.
Anybody who doesn’t explicitly oppose FPTP actually supports the Republicans. They are playing dumb, and DINO voters are dumb to keep falling for it.
We need to try to pass these ballot initiatives for alternative voting systems when it’s an off-election year.
Too many people that aren’t checked into the voting process vote against any system changes during Presidential election years. Our best bet is to get a big movement going now so that we can vote for a different system during midterms.
All we need in half the states is to get citizens ballot initiatives going, which just require getting enough signatures to put it up for vote.
Even if citizens vote for it, that doesn’t mean it’ll actually go into effect. My state voted for abortion rights and higher minimum wages last year, but the people in charge just told the voters to fuck themselves and didn’t approve it.
It’s more likely at the least. Most states allow for the voters to override a veto, but they only give you a certain window length to get enough signatures usually.
The best bet is to vote out any politicians that are trying to prevent more progressive legislation from passing. I feel that Blue governors should be playing hardball more and shaming the specific representatives or senators that are voting against progressive legislation.
This sounds like more “Don’t bother voting” propaganda.
I’m suggesting that you vote for people who are against FPTP.
Well, thank you for clearing that up.
Neoliberals, not Dems.
Don’t let them convince you that they’re the only option with a D by their name
I dunno man, seems like the DNC only lets you get the D if you are neolibed up
Obama abandoned the DNC when he was in office, out of spite because they were working with Hillary against him. Because they were still her and Bill’s people.
So the DNC was literally bought and paid for in 2016.
They didn’t know what the fuck to do and stuck with the same neoliberals for 2016-2020.
Biden won, but he nominated the neoliberals again.
Then, 2024, for the first time in decades, the voting members of the DNC picked a nonbiased state chair instead.
Like, I criticize the past DNC all the time. It’s still worse than most people realize, but today’s DNC is a completely different animal. Most people just don’t understand all this shit so think today’s DNC is in any way similar to the DNC a year ago.
The chair has complete and total control, and it’s a new chair
They may have a new chair, but how are they different? All I see is the same old Dems shitting on progressives and refusing to stand up to republicans.
All I see is the same old Dems shitting on progressives and refusing to stand up to republicans.
Well…
It sounds like you’re looking at elected representatives and for some reason you think they’re the DNC…
Neoliberals have been blurring that line for decades, so it’s a common misunderstanding of how our government works, specifically the party system.
The chair runs the party. And is accountable to no one. They don’t even have to show the books to anyone.
Neoliberals in office, prior DNC chairs, and state party chairs ran a corrupt system.
We got a non biased DNC chair now. But that didn’t fix the neoliberals in office, and while it helps the honest state parties and hurts the corrupt ones, fixing the state parties and replacing shitty incumbents still need done.
If you need reassurances about Ken Martin personally, look at how he ran Minnesota for a decade.
Spoiler: it turned a purple state we were losing ground in, to solid blue and home to some of our most progressive House reps. That’s because Martin legitimately doesn’t care who wins a Dem primary. He sees a primary as a chance for voters to pick the candidate most likely to win the general, and just goes with who voters pick
A neoliberal just can’t win a fair primary like that. So the result is progressive gains.
Well that sounds good. What structural changes has Martin instituted in the DNC to make sure the neoliberals can’t hijack the party again?
He’s running fair primaries…
That will allow a progressive to win the primary, and they’d be a slam dunk in the general.
When a Dem is elected president, they nominate a new DNC chair for a four year term. So Martin could very well just be a stepping stone if that hypothetical progressive president wanted to seat a chair who is biased for progressives, but honestly I hope we stick with a fair chair, secure in the knowledge that neoliberals can’t win a fair primary.
As such, the only danger to neoliberals taking the DNC back, is if idiots fall for Pritzker or Newsom and let a neoliberal thru the primary, because they’ll sure as shit nominate a biased neoliberal to run the DNC.
So…
He doesn’t need “structural changes” to stop neoliberals, he just isn’t doing all the bullshit they did.
Like, even talking about “structural changes” means you still don’t understand how powerful the chair is. They’re literally a dictator accountable to no one. If Martin wanted to he could just name a candidate for 2028, and it would be totally legally, but definitely not cool.
He can do whatever the fuck he wants, but so can whoever the next chair is. There’s nothing that can be changed today, that the next chair can’t change day 1.
It’s an incredibly fucked up and undemocratic system. But before we can replace it, we have to have control of it. And we just did the hardest part of that process, billionaire owned media just dont want people to know.
Edit:
But we’re currently in the middle of the largest reinvestment from DNC to state parties. After almost a decade of the DNC robbing state parties thru the “victory fund” bullshit.
That’s why Republicans got the House.
Martin redistributing that stolen wealth back to red/purple state parties is letting them operate at campaign levels already, laying the groundwork for midterms.
It’s not glamours, but it’s what the party should be doing.
They don’t seem keen on that NYC mayor guy.
They don’t seem keen on that NYC mayor guy.
Who’s “they”?
The DNC chair had this to say about Mamdani:
Well, first, it was a brilliant campaign. And there’s a lot of lessons.
One is, he campaigned for something. And this is a critical piece. We can’t just be in a perpetual state of resisting Donald Trump. Of course, we have to resist Donald Trump. There’s no doubt about it for all the reasons we just talked about. But we also have to give people a sense of what we’re for, what the Democratic Party is fighting for, and what we would do if they put us back in power.
And that’s really critical. And I think that’s one of the lessons from Mamdani’s campaign, is that he focused on affordability. He focused on a message that was resonant with voters, and he campaigned for something, not against other people or against other things. He campaigned on a vision of how he was going to make New York City a better place to live.
I think that’s one of the lessons. The other lessons, of course, is the tactics he used to get his message out, both a very aggressive in-person campaigning, meeting voters where they’re at, and then also in those digital spaces, using very creative messaging to cut through the noise and to get to voters in an inexpensive but authentic way.
There’s a lot to learn from that campaign, and I’m excited to learn more.
That was July 9th too, he’s not bandwagoning, it’s just billionaire owned media really don’t want you to know the person with absolute control over the DNC and it’s war chest supports Mamdani and candidates like him
That venn diagram is nearly a circle
Kinda like third party candidates and Russian assets
“You either support neoliberalism or you’re a Russian asset”
“You either support my party or you’re a traitor to my nation.” - Republicans and Democrats in 2025.
If we’re talking about Jill Stein specifically, the Green Party presidential candidate, I think it’s a bit more of a fair comparison.
For third parties to really have a chance we need to pass ballot initiatives for a new voting system. This gets around the Spoiler Effect that current happens in our First Past the Post system. I’m all for third parties being viable since that would actually pressure Democrats to be more progressive or they risk losing to progressives.
For states with ballot initiatives, that sounds practical. Back when I lived in CT we voted against having ballot initiatives for 20 years. I didn’t want to be unrepresented for 20 years, so I moved to CA.
You either ensure the downfall of the united states via conservative policy or you’re an EvIl NeOlIbErAl
You’re the first one to say evil, but OK
I’ve seen this charade before.
Bro this is literally your own logic
Dead politicians are mostly ok, though.
We need more of them more often
Yup.
Republicans are Jimmy from mouthwashing.
Democrats are Curly.
Leftists are Swansea.
They all work for Israel anyway https://www.trackaipac.com/congress
Israel and the USA are two arms of the same entity. Both are entirely controlled by the capitalist hegemony.
