There’s another side to this.
This means there’s a lot of programmers who are available to work on other things. It’s an opportunity for businesses to start and new programs to be made.
I am going to gleefully watch some of those companies burn when seniors retire or move on and there is no one left with enough experience to supervise AI code or beginner level coders.
Exactly, nobody is investing in their to-be seniors and dev culture.
Expecting ai-slop to make the difference is a fairy tale told to investors and board members.
I am not against any of our new devs (or myself, a longtime dev) using ai generated code but I expect them to understand it so they can fix it and build their skillsets. I tell them that renting their dev skills from a machine will do them no favors.
Betcha wish ya’d fucking unionised now.
Ahh reminds me of when I was a fresh CS grad working at Dominos
Now they get to spend the next 5-10 years realizing they are slaves and everything adults have told them about the economy, work, and fairness was cope from those adult slaves.
What do you do now?
System Admin
I wanted to make videogames originally. :/
As a dev with several close friends who have combined decades of game development - you’re not missing out much. The pay isn’t as good as it needs to be for that amount of crunch, the big companies have so many petty squabbles and politics, and it’s a good road to burn-out. The engines have gotten good enough that making games is a matter of spending the time at night/weekends. Not glamorous, but can be fun and rewarding, even if you never ship.
Yeah i was willing to do it if it was livable because it was fun for me.
But it’s like getting a CS degree to be a starving artist.
Yeah that’s insanely competitive. I got a friend who wants to do game dev and has was struggling for some time.
Kill your masters
Economists and industry executives say the hiring slowdown is also tied to post-pandemic overstaffing, aggressive cost-cutting, high interest rates and widespread hiring freezes.
Vs
a tiktok video about overhyped topic
News editors: Let’s go ahead and publish another “news” article about a TikTok video on an overhyped topic!
They’re just trying to make AI sound successful, just like the overlords want them to.
I am more inclined to think they just want ragebait articles and AI is a current easy target
Yeah, these types of stories are advertisements directed at the landlord class. “Look, AI means fewer icky employees to have to put up with! At last, business without labor!”
Yeah this article is functionally an ad for coderabbit.
It is successful. On what planet are you living?
The one where every LLM-generated shell script I read is another deep splinter in my fingernail quick that I have to rip out and destroy because it’s a godfucked mess of bad practices that we can never ever ever ever EVER train out of an LLM at this point.
Lemmy bubble stronk bubble :)
I honestly do not understand the absolute blatant ignorance of this seeming dichotomy of nobody wants AI or LLMs and AI is replacing our jobs and LLMs are making everyone stupid.
this seeming dichotomy
The solution is that you are in a bubble. A lot of people like it :)
The “journalist” credited’s bio literally says he is addicted to twitter as some kind of base of honor.
Almost all companies deploying generative AI don’t see their revenue change significantly. AI is not the money maker people claimed it was going to be.
AI is not the money maker people claimed it was going to be.
When people make claims about what “AI” is going to do in the future they’re talking about Artificial General Intelligence - not Large Language Models.
While I agree with you, its that very misunderstanding that bosses and owners have, and they’ll fire regular folks and replace with ai. They may suffer lower quality and even catastrophic failures but it will take time for them to realise and rehire people. All those regular folks will be out of work during that time.
Don’t believe everything you read in the NYPost.
Don’t believe anything you read there.
Well, now they know what it’s like to have a bachelor’s degree in any other field. Welcome to the club.
If you want a guaranteed job right away, go into medicine, or plumbing, those are safe bets. I expect people will always get sick and need to shit.
Once the peasants are all replaced by AI they won’t need those jobs either
Were quite a ways off from technician jobs get replaced at scale. Like some VC cunt can dream but good luck.
The peasants will still shit, count on it.
Besides, let’s not pretend this “AI replacing us all” narrative has any real lasting power. We see the same story constantly, company replaces workers with AI, company regrets it later. This AI sucks, it’s not there yet. You don’t really have to worry about it long term.
Don’t mistake the weather for the climate.
The “pick yourself up by your bootstraps” folks ordering a burrito. Bootstrap?
If I pick myself up by the bootstrap, am I technically floating?
That was the original joke.
Why should I even try? If the job market is this bad. I’ve been struggling with this question.
if you start studying now, chances are the market will have improved when you graduate.
How was the interview? Did they pull questions from HackerRank?
Asking for me, because I’m an old CS grad in a bad job market.
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What? Your friend hated your 20s??
My friend, absolutely hated my 20s? maybe?
Oh that makes more sense lol
Coding AI is like hold my beer. Folding an over priced burrito not so much.
I’m sorry but if AI coding platforms have replaced you as a programmer then you were a bad programmer or were poorly educated and should just work at Chipotle.
Pay no attention to the massive layoffs across the tech sector the last 2 years. Definitely the workers’ faults
Everyone starts somewhere my dude
Exactly.
Even college graduates need time to learn and build experience as they work up the ladder. A lot of theory and stuff someone might learn in college won’t necessarily be what they’ll find in the job world.
The ladder that starts at Chipotle is not one that leads to work in the field you studied for. College graduates who are struggling to find jobs would relish the opportunity to work up the ladder in their field, but there are insufficient entry level jobs.
You’re so right. That’s why I graduated with a degree in computer science with a 3.58 GPA whilst carrying my teams on projects and worked my ass off to apply to many jobs and internships during my education as well as learning additional skills not being taught to me on the side…only to be met with nothing but rejection after rejection without so much as an internview. Guess I should just work at Walmart for $14/hr because I’m a talentless hack that will never amount to anything. $70,000 well spent!
The social contract is completely and utterly broken. For as long as hard work and investments in one’s future gets people absolutely nowhere, we will continue to be a degenerating society that doesn’t give a shit about being aspirational. There won’t be anyone left to care about space exploration or scientific advancements if all of the extremely talented people who can make it happen have the ball and chain of capitalism holding them down and sucking the life out of them. It’s impossible to dream big when you’re living in a nightmare.
If you have a degree, you can work somewhere else besides Chipotle. It might not be in the field of your major, but it will be better paying than fast food.
I’ve tried applying for jobs that didn’t really require my degree but was adjacent to it like data entry and help desk after graduating unemployed, only to be met with more rejection and failure. It’s as if my degree doesn’t exist. Unless you have any suggestions for a job that only requires a non-specific degree, but I’ve heard having a degree in itself isn’t valuable to employers at all unless it’s related in some way to the job. Either way, I’m trying to stay motivated to make projects on the side to hopefully refine my programming even further, but not only do I don’t have any ideas for projects that don’t already exist, but I’m not fully convinced that it will be worth the time. Especially considering every other attempt that involved working and studying for many hours have blown up in my face so far.
I haven’t even graduated yet for CS and I’m already in a weird IT stint.
I am software engineer, and the coding LLM we have is absolutely capable of doing a bunch of tasks you’d give to a new grad.
what a poorly educated and tone deaf response to a post that didn’t ask for or need your opinion.
just because you have thoughts, doesn’t mean you’re free to share them.
What an uneducated and pointless response to a comment that didn’t ask for or need your opinion.
Just because you dislike the reality of our world doesn’t mean it’s not happening.
Or they did compsci degrees like most schools offer not software engineering and didn’t actually learn how to code
Judging by the replies here I think you are absolutely right.
