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Cake day: October 23rd, 2023

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  • Yeah this is something that has got way worse over time. It used to be that most forums would default to “no politics” and then there were discussion areas set aside for that. And now if you criticise someone for bringing politics into something where it doesn’t belong, you will get angry responses declaring that you’re burying your head in the sand. No, I just don’t want lowest-hanging-fruit political comments on every cat picture.


  • JAQing off and Whataboutism are not those things.

    Yeah, but if you go in saying that this is the inevitable result of having conservatives discuss politics here, I am suspicious that your threshold for those terms is waaayy lower than mine.

    The person I replied to originally wasn’t talking about trolling or toxic behaviour, they were talking about conservative viewpoints (likening them to cannibalism, I might add) so, if you want to chip in that trolling isn’t welcome then I’ll certainly agree with that, but there’s a reason I’m not really talking about that.


  • It used to be, in the early days of mass social media (and it was widespread on forums)

    Moderation isn’t easy but it also needn’t be fraught - set standards of civility (strict or loose) and basic rules about hate speech, and let people take themselves out of discussions that are within the rules that they nevertheless don’t like.

    It works a lot better in small communities where you talk to the same people - you can ignore people you don’t like and not have the same conversation over and over.



  • The fact that you characterise natural ways of engaging in a discussion negatively doesn’t mean it’s not genuine, and it doesn’t mean you’re forced to look at it if it’s available.

    NOTHING is stopping a conservative from coming here and making cogent, factual arguments, aside from their own fragility.

    The structure of vote-based social media makes it difficult, and the people who, rather than remove themselves from places where arguments happen, shout down the people having the arguments, stops this from happening.

    You’d be right to point out that conservative-majority spaces are just as, if not more guilty of this, but that doesn’t make it less true.

    The conservatives who “can’t” post to Lemmy are the ones who don’t know how to have an actual conversation and get banned.

    That’s true but it’s not the only thing that’s going on.