I don’t support authoritarianism, regardless of how close to communism it is.
But at least China invests in its people.
I really wish they didn’t do mass surveillance and have political prisoners. And all that other bad stuff. Being a homosexual is illegal and not socially acceptable (per a lesbian from China I was in grad school with who told me this).
But you gott a give China credit for investing in their people.
The thing is, China is still capitalist.
It’s just regulated a bit better and the government officials are more educated and see that innovation and investment will make them more wealthy in the long run.
I guess their system is a bit of a hybrid. Capitalism and socialism.
But it’s not full communism no matter what they say. The workers don’t own the companies.
They are investing in solar system exploration and space exploration in general too. We just rarely hear about how much progress they’ve made in the US because that stuff is pretty embarrassing for the US.
I’ve been following space science for years, and I have traveled the world, there very much are “firewalls” of news and information we get between different countries. It’s not “conspiratorial” it’s just normal geopolitics. It would be a conspiracy if anyone was trying to hide the fact that they do this.
All that said, I see a LOT more news and information in mainstream media outlets about ESA than I do CNSA domestically. It’s not a conspiracy and not a coincidence that we get information about our political and economic rivals downplayed.
Except if you have Rural Hukou and can’t go to public school in the city, even though you were born in the City, basically spend most of your early childhood in the city, and you parents live and work there, and its either go to a privately-run school or rural schools, both of which are shitty and don’t have proper funding, you get subpar teachers and subpar education. (Privately-run schools are worse btw, its different from the west, these are typically only for children of migrant workers, or those without a legal papers, see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heihaizi, these school don’t have public funding.) I mean, even the US, prior to 2025, allowed undocumented immigrant children to enroll in public school, wtf is China doing, they’re punishing children for arbitrary internal borders. Imagine if you go to another state and oopsie your kids can’t go to public school. ?!?
I was born in Guangzhou, and had Taishan Hukou, they denied access to Guangzhou public schools. Thanks a lot, government!
Thanks for the info. As an American. I’m not really very knowledgeable about other countries education systems.
I can definitely see your perspective.
We have the same issues with poor quality public schools in rural areas because school funding is based on property taxes. You live in a poor neighborhood, you go to a poor school.
But you are right that at least everyone can attend public school. Or at least they could. Special education cuts are going to hurt a lot of kids.
And I was not aware that they were restricting immigrant kids now. That’s pretty sad.
The only cheap private schools we have here are Christians backwoods schools.
Not a good place to send your kids. Not even taught by educated people.
Kind of sounds like the private schools you mention in China but minus the Christians.
And I was not aware that they were restricting immigrant kids now.
That I’m not certain about.
They might still be allowed to enroll (federal government does not run schools), but what I’m saying is that ICE policies used to ban raids in schools, but now this admin changed the rules, so its now unsafe for undocumented children to go to school because ICE could raid their classroom and take them away.
Like a slave owner invests into his slaves. Chinese people don’t even have the right to relocate within their own country. This sort of investment is not what anyone should want.
Chinese people don’t even have the right to relocate within their own country
Technically, they sort of do. Sometime after Deng Xiaoping’s reforms, they eventually relaxed the restrictions on movements. My parents are from villages in Taishan, they moved to Guangzhou, have a small apartment unit in some slum neighborhood, but even though I was born in Guangzhou, I didn’t get Guangzhou Hukou. Therefore, denied access to Guangzhou public schools. The school I went to was privately-run for migrant children, its worse than public schools.
China is capitalist and authoritarian. Their investment in their people is done with the goal of neo-colonialism as they use their wealth and influence to indebt growing nations to China. They invest in their people, but only enough to stave off mass protests. We see a lot of wealth come out of China, but remember that we could witness China uplift an equivalent amount of people to the entire population of the U.S. and they would still be oppressing a larger percentage of their population.
It looks like it’s working in contrast to the U.S. right now because we are currently crashing out as a nation, rewarding cash-grabbing opportunists even more than we have for all of U.S. history. Idk, there is a chance we fully burn up in this shit show going on right now and that would de-facto make China’s system technically better, but I think that’s the only way. I mean the atrocities China has committed against its own people and people around the world in recent decades is ridiculous. I know you weren’t going to bat for China don’t worry.
I don’t support authoritarianism, regardless of how close to communism it is. But at least China invests in its people.
I really wish they didn’t do mass surveillance and have political prisoners. And all that other bad stuff. Being a homosexual is illegal and not socially acceptable (per a lesbian from China I was in grad school with who told me this).
But you gott a give China credit for investing in their people.
The thing is, China is still capitalist.
It’s just regulated a bit better and the government officials are more educated and see that innovation and investment will make them more wealthy in the long run.
I guess their system is a bit of a hybrid. Capitalism and socialism.
But it’s not full communism no matter what they say. The workers don’t own the companies.
They are investing in solar system exploration and space exploration in general too. We just rarely hear about how much progress they’ve made in the US because that stuff is pretty embarrassing for the US.
Or maybe just because they, you know, speak an entirely different language? Not everything has to be a conspiracy
I’ve been following space science for years, and I have traveled the world, there very much are “firewalls” of news and information we get between different countries. It’s not “conspiratorial” it’s just normal geopolitics. It would be a conspiracy if anyone was trying to hide the fact that they do this.
All that said, I see a LOT more news and information in mainstream media outlets about ESA than I do CNSA domestically. It’s not a conspiracy and not a coincidence that we get information about our political and economic rivals downplayed.
Except if you have Rural Hukou and can’t go to public school in the city, even though you were born in the City, basically spend most of your early childhood in the city, and you parents live and work there, and its either go to a privately-run school or rural schools, both of which are shitty and don’t have proper funding, you get subpar teachers and subpar education. (Privately-run schools are worse btw, its different from the west, these are typically only for children of migrant workers, or those without a legal papers, see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heihaizi, these school don’t have public funding.) I mean, even the US, prior to 2025, allowed undocumented immigrant children to enroll in public school, wtf is China doing, they’re punishing children for arbitrary internal borders. Imagine if you go to another state and oopsie your kids can’t go to public school. ?!?
I was born in Guangzhou, and had Taishan Hukou, they denied access to Guangzhou public schools. Thanks a lot, government!
Thanks for the info. As an American. I’m not really very knowledgeable about other countries education systems.
I can definitely see your perspective.
We have the same issues with poor quality public schools in rural areas because school funding is based on property taxes. You live in a poor neighborhood, you go to a poor school.
But you are right that at least everyone can attend public school. Or at least they could. Special education cuts are going to hurt a lot of kids.
And I was not aware that they were restricting immigrant kids now. That’s pretty sad.
The only cheap private schools we have here are Christians backwoods schools.
Not a good place to send your kids. Not even taught by educated people.
Kind of sounds like the private schools you mention in China but minus the Christians.
That I’m not certain about.
They might still be allowed to enroll (federal government does not run schools), but what I’m saying is that ICE policies used to ban raids in schools, but now this admin changed the rules, so its now unsafe for undocumented children to go to school because ICE could raid their classroom and take them away.
Like a slave owner invests into his slaves. Chinese people don’t even have the right to relocate within their own country. This sort of investment is not what anyone should want.
Technically, they sort of do. Sometime after Deng Xiaoping’s reforms, they eventually relaxed the restrictions on movements. My parents are from villages in Taishan, they moved to Guangzhou, have a small apartment unit in some slum neighborhood, but even though I was born in Guangzhou, I didn’t get Guangzhou Hukou. Therefore, denied access to Guangzhou public schools. The school I went to was privately-run for migrant children, its worse than public schools.
Right. Reminds me of the book watership down. You know what I’m talking about?
China is capitalist and authoritarian. Their investment in their people is done with the goal of neo-colonialism as they use their wealth and influence to indebt growing nations to China. They invest in their people, but only enough to stave off mass protests. We see a lot of wealth come out of China, but remember that we could witness China uplift an equivalent amount of people to the entire population of the U.S. and they would still be oppressing a larger percentage of their population.
It looks like it’s working in contrast to the U.S. right now because we are currently crashing out as a nation, rewarding cash-grabbing opportunists even more than we have for all of U.S. history. Idk, there is a chance we fully burn up in this shit show going on right now and that would de-facto make China’s system technically better, but I think that’s the only way. I mean the atrocities China has committed against its own people and people around the world in recent decades is ridiculous. I know you weren’t going to bat for China don’t worry.
Yeah I mean you could make an argument it’s a hybrid socialist capitalism. But I’m kinda with you. It’s still capitalist at its core.
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