Are you fucking with me right now?

No, you’re right, that isn’t whataboutism.

It’s a hypothetical about what did not happen to the chinese population.

Surely violently killing students is reasonable in light of that…

…no one ever said complete. You’re intentionally exaggerating my statements into thing that are not to make them so more unrealistic than they actually are. I know your type.

No, China is not alone in blocking travel to their country for hate speech or other bigotry.

Like this. Changing what I said into something else.

I’m calling you propagandized because you’re going to deny the oppression of the uyghurs in your country. You’re also just outright ignoring what happened in hong kong.

China is NOT the same.

It’s clear you’ve been extensively propagandized to think china isn’t fascist. I’m not sure if I can discuss with someone who cannot see how their own country is run …

The government is not the people .

I get that you’re angry you’ll never own your home in the US,

… I’m on track to get one in 2 years.

Every single country on earth has this clause. Every single one

…no

You’re still ignoring how china can and has disappeared or block people from the country simply for expressing their views, and used “police forces” to enforce their laws upon citizens in other territories

you believe because you fundamentally believe Chinese people are different than you.

??? Fascist government vs democracy (fingers crossed we stay one) and you think there isn’t a difference? Man you’ve been swallowing some serious propaganda. It’s not about the people, it’s about the government.

You’ll find this in every country

No, you won’t. It’s a different system. I’m not going to say it’s a worse system, because it’s not really, it’s just a different system. But you need to recognize that it is substantially different. A lease is different from pure ownership. There’s a lot less guarantees involved.

Chinas 70 year lease is effectively a more solidified ownership than the US.

That’s pure philosophy. I would argue that complete legal ownership is more ownership…

repeating US propaganda about China is hilariously ironic

None of what I said was propaganda lmfao. Lease is just pure facts, and censorship is something that you’d have to be blind to think isn’t real.

…you know that a lease isn’t ownership right?

Look into imminent domain seizures in the US.

Yes, they can take land you own… That doesn’t mean you don’t own it lol. Just because you can lose something doesn’t mean you don’t own it. And that’s a lot more niche a situation then you’re thinking it is

Quite frankly, I think you’re failing to see that a major part of American culture, a literal founding principle, is “live free or die”. Americans are obviously not going to take that censorship as just a small downside.

Quality of life is less important than freedom.

absolute ownership (no property tax).

This is also just a lie. They don’t own land.

… assuming deepseek is telling the truth, something they have plenty of incentives to lie about