• TheFonz@lemmy.world
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    15 hours ago

    I see we’re back at option ©. Keep at it, man. Some day things will change for you. Cheers.

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      15 hours ago

      Condescension after gloating isn’t any better.

      I don’t have the means for a or b and like I said, you get everything you want from democrats without doing anything.

      You must be so disappointed now that there’s a ceasefire. Don’t worry, it won’t last. netanyahu’s good faith exists in equal abundance to your own.

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        14 hours ago

        I don’t know why you attribute things to your interlocutors that are not there. It’s a cheap ploy and you do it in every. Single. Conversation. I’ve. Had. With. You.

        It goes like this: TheFonz: “let’s reform the Democratic party” Ensign_Crab: “so you like genocide, huh?”.

        Every. Fucking. Time.

        Why?

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          14 hours ago

          You expect no criticism of a party that supports genocide.

          It goes like this: TheFonz: “let’s reform the Democratic party”

          You are not advocating for reform. You are advocating for silence from your left.

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            13 hours ago

            When? When did I advocate for silence? I even encouraged you to start your party. I think it’s a good thing! You should do SOMETHING. ANYTHING

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              12 hours ago

              I even encouraged you to start your party.

              Knowing damned well that very few people have the means to do so. You were gloating from the position of someone who actually has a party that represents your interests.

              If the party ever atones for the disgusting genocide support of 2024 and actually starts representing workers for the first time in decades, I’ll stop talking about how they’re genocide supporters who hate workers.

              Don’t like it? I will never care.

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                11 hours ago

                Hey this is such a strange conversation. I’m not sure where the information is getting lost.

                If the democratic party represented my interests, why would I be advocating for its reform? I really am struggling to follow you thought process.

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                  10 hours ago

                  If the democratic party represented my interests, why would I be advocating for its reform?

                  Reform doesn’t usually involve telling people that their only options are to get out of the party or shut up.

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                    9 hours ago

                    I never said to get out of the party or shut up. I said the opposite.

                    1. Get active in the party and work to reform

                    2. Start a new party

                    Neither option is telling anyone to “shut up”. I hope that’s not what you took from it. However, option 3. Is not acceptable in my wiew: bitch endlessly about the status quo. Yea, it sucks. That’s why we want to improve it. We’re not giving up. If we can’t reshape the democratic party through new blood then we should abandon it and start new. But I don’t need to hear endlessly on Lemmy about the status quo. We’re all very acutely aware