Let me assure you I am not a conservative and also align with progressive or lefty ideals. Don’t mistake criticism of lefty twitch streamers as a convenient reason to box in reasonable discourse.

Saying Palestinians have a right to self defense is a fine statement. Farming faux outrage day after day by exploiting the suffering of victims of genocide to farm clicks: not so much.

Let me assure you, Hassan has no interest in seeing an end to any of the ongoing conflicts in the world. This is evidenced by the way he condones and encourages the visceral rhetoric aimed at any party that is seeking reconciliation of any sort.

Outrage == clicks

It’s not clip chimped. Sign on Twitch and watch for yourself. I’ve been following Hassan for years. This really is the summation of his content (and most of his peers, as well). Their livelihood depends on a outraged and captured audience (same as Alex Jones). This guy does a better break down if you want more meta: Padda

Always with the “missing context” when it comes to Hassan.

What I learned watching Hassan for one Week

How do you measure their sincerity? Is it the charity drives? Is it the way he insults trans people? Or the way he makes fun of victims of SA? I’m curious.

We get it. You don’t like liberal Dems.

Make your own party. Go. Do something.

do anything please

Not Hassan though! He’s totally genuine about his Gucci bag and Porsche haha

Hasan is purely outrage farming and nothing more. He builds no electoral power, has no goals to move to, and couldn’t care less to build coalitions. You know, the stuff you gotta do to get things done. He needs his viewer base to remain angry all the time because at this point he is completely audience captured and his subsistence depends on him just yapping to Twitter headlines all day.

Right. You could totally be right about OPs offline political engagement. My critique is more directed at the entirety of the online leftist media apparatus (the twitch streamers, the youtubers, the online pundits, etc). These people are so wrapped in their own personas and audience capture, that they are essentially worthless at building any political power or anything that resembles a movement.

We have twitch streamers with insanely huge audiences like Hassan, who claims to be a socialist, but whenever he’s offered a chance to expand the message or gain some kind of momentum he shoots it down. There seems to be no will or strategy to expand this effort beyond maybe growing youtube subscribers. That’s it. So when I see the same memes posted on lemmy, day after day, I have to wonder: what is the end goal?

I don’t disagree with this sentiment. It’s also hard to entertain these types of conversations online because I never know who I’m talking to. Am I interacting with a tankie, an anarchist, or even worst - lemmy’s worst nightmare - a soc dem? Each will have a different position and mandate it’s own type of discourse. But regardless of what your political alignment, you should want to build power.

If you’re a tankie, you will completely eschew building coalitions with liberals. And there’s nothing wrong with that! But then, I don’t know, build an independent party and do something instead of bitching 24/7 about liberals.

If you’re a soc dem, you could try to rebuild the democratic party from within. It’s already undergone several waves of changes, so whose to say it couldn’t happen again? AOC and Mamdani are trying. I support them.

If you’re an anarchist, the same principle applies. You should want to build power. You don’t have align all the time with liberals, but maybe you can form coalitions around policies that highlight the goals of anarchism in a way that makes the movement visible to the general public. You know, building power.

Posting memes 24/7 about liberals is like screaming into the void where all your friends are standing next to you and clapping. Like, ok? What’s next?

Yes. I didn’t think establishment democrats would just roll over without a fight. But they are boomers on their last ticket out. If we don’t at least try, then what’s the point? Is the sum total of all our efforts then intended to be online memes? That’s why I look up to Mamdani because he’s not punching the entire democratic apparatus. He’s punching the hardline centrist boomers that are holding the party back. After all, Zohran is running from within the democratic primary, and not as an independent. I have a lot of respect for him and will always support him. He’s doing the work to change the party and move it in the right direction. So is AOC. On the other hand, online lefties sum total action amounts to…memes? I don’t know. You tell me. What exactly are y’all doing?

I feel like online lefties are all performative and have no genuine strategy for building power. So they resort to the usual purity testing and punching out at liberals non stop. Meanwhile, conservatives are literally ripping people off the streets and putting them in cages. But hey, did you know liberals are actually centrists?

It’s like, my dude, learn to build political power first. Then you can move on to putting liberals in concentration camps like you’ve always been wanting to do. This here is just posturing

It’s just that lefties don’t seem to want to or know how to build power. It feels very performative. If they actually cared about any of the issues they are so vocal about, I don’t know, maybe they would do the groundwork to build a political framework. That’s why I applaud people like Zohran or AOC. They are there, doing the work day in and out. But online lefties are just pouting and crying about liberals non stop

I don’t think this is entirely accurate. I know ultimately Kathleen called a lot of the shots and was very meddling in the production and I thitk Ryan was trying to do something original after seeing what a superficial piece of garbage TFA was. Ryan is actually a good writer / director.

Isn’t Kathleen the producer? It was directed by Ryan Johnson

Fair point. I do agree that the mainstream electorate skews skews further right than terminally ill online leftists. I just think running a robot over a populist against another populist was a severe miscalculation by the DNC, regardless of how well he polled. Hillary had the charisma of a wooden board and a lot of baggage. Polls are useful to getting a pulse of the people at a moment in time. Many polls showed Bernie outperforming Hillary against Trump. The context matters. But I hear you.

Pug. Long time fan here but I’m curious if you’ve read “Shattered” yet? It is a well researched book about the inner machinations of the Hillary campaign and goes into depth as to what / how things went horribly wrong. I used to think like you, but the reality is it’s a bit of column A and a bit of column B.

Tl;dr: even if Bernie had polled well among mainstream voters, it would have taken mountains to move the whale that is Hillary. She had ties to every corner of the DNC. It’s not totally that she had to rig the primary, but it was a fools errand to run against someone as powerful and well connected as her.

My parent spidey senses are tingling. Besides the ADHD, is there anything else happening in his life? Major life change (changing school; new friends, etc)? He may not feel comfortable vocalizing yet if there is in fact something affecting him

Hey guess what? They pretty have the same minimalist ui. Way to miss the entire point I made

Also, I never mentioned Photoshop. Open any standard drawing app that was developed recently: Procreate, Infinite Paint, Krita, Fresco. Look how straightforward it is to start working. Look at the Ui. It doesn’t get in the way.

Edit: oh no the FOSS evangelists are not feeling it. I get it. I use a lot of FOSS apps for work. That doesn’t mean we have to be evangelical in our defense of FOSS. Recognize there are issues and we can work to fix them. Don’t get so defensive, Lemmy. My god.

Yes, as an artist I will choose the path of least resistance. Open any new drawing app today: Procreate, Infinite Paint, Krita, Fresco and look how clean and easy it is to get right to the point and start working. Now open GIMP and pull my eyelashes out already. The tool should not get in the way of the task. I’m with Steve Jobs on this, sorry. Computers are means to an end. For some they can be hobbies. Linux exists. Have fun.

Edit: oh no! The FOSS evangelists are not feeling it. I get it. I use a lot of FOSS apps for work. That doesn’t mean we have to be evangelical in our defense of FOSS. Recognize there are issues and we can work to fix them. Don’t get so defensive, Lemmy. My god.