• Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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    16 hours ago

    You expect no criticism of a party that supports genocide.

    It goes like this: TheFonz: “let’s reform the Democratic party”

    You are not advocating for reform. You are advocating for silence from your left.

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      16 hours ago

      When? When did I advocate for silence? I even encouraged you to start your party. I think it’s a good thing! You should do SOMETHING. ANYTHING

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        15 hours ago

        I even encouraged you to start your party.

        Knowing damned well that very few people have the means to do so. You were gloating from the position of someone who actually has a party that represents your interests.

        If the party ever atones for the disgusting genocide support of 2024 and actually starts representing workers for the first time in decades, I’ll stop talking about how they’re genocide supporters who hate workers.

        Don’t like it? I will never care.

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          14 hours ago

          Hey this is such a strange conversation. I’m not sure where the information is getting lost.

          If the democratic party represented my interests, why would I be advocating for its reform? I really am struggling to follow you thought process.

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            12 hours ago

            If the democratic party represented my interests, why would I be advocating for its reform?

            Reform doesn’t usually involve telling people that their only options are to get out of the party or shut up.

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              12 hours ago

              I never said to get out of the party or shut up. I said the opposite.

              1. Get active in the party and work to reform

              2. Start a new party

              Neither option is telling anyone to “shut up”. I hope that’s not what you took from it. However, option 3. Is not acceptable in my wiew: bitch endlessly about the status quo. Yea, it sucks. That’s why we want to improve it. We’re not giving up. If we can’t reshape the democratic party through new blood then we should abandon it and start new. But I don’t need to hear endlessly on Lemmy about the status quo. We’re all very acutely aware

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                12 hours ago

                I don’t have the resources for either option, as you already knew when you decided to gloat by suggesting them.

                I don’t care what you consider acceptable, as it’s clear to me that the only thing you consider acceptable is a total lack of criticism of the democratic party.

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                  12 hours ago

                  How can I on one hand invite reform of the democratic party and at the same time renounce criticism? That doesn’t make any sense. Why did you imply that to begin with? What statement of mine denounced criticism of the democratic party? I’m just saying let’s move on. Let’s build instead of shiting all day.

                  Also, what resources are you lacking exactly? I see you whining 24/7 on Lemmy. It’s been a year since the election and I still see you writing essays about Harris and Gaza. So clearly you have time to write and be active online. Maybe channel some of that rage into something more constructive and start building? We know Harris sucked a big horse dick. Let’s move on.

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                    8 hours ago

                    Also, what resources are you lacking exactly?

                    Well, money for starters. In case you didn’t notice, AIPAC spends a lot of it making sure your party does what you want them to. Also health, but I don’t like to bring up personal physical frailty because it’s none of your damned business.

                    We know Harris sucked a big horse dick. Let’s move on.

                    It wasn’t just harris and you know it. It was brought before congress multiple times and every single time, a majority of democrats made it clear that they were in the genocide caucus.

                    Like I said, I’ll drop my criticism of the party when they stop being useless. At this point, I’m glad it bothers you that I won’t shut up like you want.

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                    11 hours ago

                    To add to this: Biden was a decrepit fuck who held the party back. Harris was a competent robot that vacillated on Gaza. They all sucked. But we also have new blood coming in. Let’s rebuild