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    Hate them all you want, but it takes a fraction of the space in my tiny kitchen, compared with a convection oven, and does the same job.

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      An air fryer is a convection oven but more so.

      When I looked a couple years ago there wasn’t a standard definition. But if you look at the specs of similar products from a specific manufacturer, you’d see air fryers moved more air than convection ovens

      I had to get a new stove and wanted one with an air fryer but at the time there were none that were both induction stove and air fryer. I had to settle for convection oven but the only difference I found on the specs was more air movement. However the convection oven on this brand had more air movement than air fryer on a different brand

      I don’t know if definitions have been standardized since then

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        They probably have been standardized, by every single brand independently😅

        You know, how they usually go about things.

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      17 hours ago

      An air fryer is a convection oven. But not every convection oven is an air fryer.

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    A true air fryer cooks by blasting hot air from directly above the food. The fan and heating element sit on top, and the food rests in a basket with holes that let air flow underneath. This creates a fast-moving vortex of heat that surrounds the food, cooking it evenly and making it crispy with very little oil.

    A small tabletop convection oven works differently. Its fan is usually in the back or on the side, pushing hot air around the chamber instead of straight down. The air moves more gently, and the food often sits on a solid tray or rack that blocks airflow underneath. It still cooks evenly, but it produces more of a roasted texture than a fried one.

    Personally, I prefer tabletop convection.

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    True but when I have kitchen space the thrift store has plenty. I came dangerously close to buying one when I went to get a food processor (yes I eat processed foods)

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    It has been said about so many appliances and tools, and it’s hard to know what to believe some times, but air fryer is game changer!

    Imagine your convection oven could heat up in two minutes or less. And no tray. No tray at all. Just toss it in then scoop it out. Game changer.

    PS if you don’t own a rice cooker what the fuck are you doing

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      PS if you don’t own a rice cooker what the fuck are you doing

      It’s hard to find a good one that doesn’t have PFAS. And having one that has isn’t an option because it can easily kill my birds

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        I see even reasonably priced rice cookers with stainless steel pots now. I have no idea what cleaning those is like but the PFAS surface on my current rice cooker is no longer as non-stick as it used to be so I’m looking at stainless

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      PS if you don’t own a rice cooker what the fuck are you doing

      I put rice in the pressure cooker. It’s faster and just as easy.

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        No man that’s got the chicken in it.

        Bonus points to anyone with stickers of Queen and or David Bowie on your cooker

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        My pressure cooker always makes rice too gluey. I’ve tried different timings and measures, nothing works. Though I do have a really decent sushi rice process for the pressure cooker.

        I didn’t get a rice cooker for years after my zojirushi mysteriously broke and I couldn’t get it repaired. Didn’t want anything teflon. Finally got a tatung. Really happy.

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            Almost. My instant pot crisp has a stainless pot, and you can get stainless steel baskets to use instead of the teflon one it comes with. The only teflon bit left is the fan guard plate. It’s as mitigated as I could get it.

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                Instant Pot. I like it, but the original company went bankrupt and is now owned by private equity, and the new management tried to sell MAGA themed stuff. Suffice to say, I can’t vouch for the company after that. Maybe if you could find an older model second-hand? Or just don’t get an air fryer, most of them are rubbish.

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          I’ve got the kind of pressure cooker that has to be placed on the stove. Never had that kind of problem with it.

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      How much counter space do you have? My rice cooker is already on top of another appliance.

      If you’re not cooking rice all the time it is just not worth it

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        I’ll give counterpoint

        1. Many rice cookers are a fairly small appliance. There’s plenty of room on the counter in even the smallest kitchens
        2. My rice cooker is the reason I cook rice all the time. Before getting one, rice was rarely worth the effort, but now it is the easiest, most convenient starch
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          I don’t really get this. I mean maybe there are some that are smaller than I know of - mine is a bit smaller than a microwave.

          But the methods of rice cooking I know (absorption is what I use and I also know the one where you use loads of water then drain it off, like pasta) are dead easy. As easy as pasta, and noone complains pasta is hard to cook.

          I use a rice cooker because a Chinese ex gave it me and it makes better rice, not easier rice. It takes longer to cook, meaning that if anything it’s a tiny bit harder to plan for.

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            Cooking rice on a stove may be easy but you have to pay attention to it, and it’s easy to go wrong if you don’t have all the meal done at the same time.

            Using a rice cooker is filling it up and pressing a button. It’ll be ready when you are and does a pretty good job of keeping rice on standby if it needs to wait for the rest of the meal

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              but you have to pay attention to it

              Not really? After it comes to the boil (<1m) you can turn it down to a simmer and leave it until the timer goes. Because it’s quick, if you err on the side of starting it late you won’t be far wrong, and if you do have it ready early, it’ll keep warm in the pan with the lid on for a decent length of time.

              It’ll be ready when you are

              this is no more true than it is for cooking it on the stove?

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            True, there is a huge variety of sizes of rice cooker, depending on how much they make and how fancy they are

            The rice cooker I have is cheap, simple and small, makes enough for at least four people and is the size of a 1.5 qt pot, about 9” in diameter. It has one button and consistently cooks decent rice in 15-20 minutes

            I guess microwave ovens are all sizes as well: mine has got to be 30” across by 15” deep. I might be able to fit four rice cookers in it.

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      They’re the same thing. A small oven heats up faster than a big oven. It’s only faster because it’s 1/10th the size.

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        The airflow in a regular convection oven is not nearly as violent as in an air fryer. Even when preheated food will cook faster and become crisper in an air fryer than a convection oven at the same temperature

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      I’ve considtently cooked better rice on my stove than any rice cooker. It takes more practice to dial in but once you’ve got it, its better than a rice cooker.

      ProTip you can just pick up the pot, hold the lid down and flip it to see if there’s too much or too little water left.

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      Limited space and a saucepan is just fine for rice. I generally avoid over specialised cooking tools and go for more generic equipment. Like I also don’t own a waffle iron or sandwich toaster.

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    That’s true. I own a frying pan and an oven.
    Health benefits don’t really concern me. I’m in no hurry to get anywhere so the time benefits do not apply to me. I never deep fry things. I think I’d sooner buy a rice cooker.

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      This is just like a rice cooker. Since the toaster and microwave, there have been few kitchen gadgets that actually make life easier, but they are my rice cooker, my coffee pods, and my air fryer. All of them turn a common food process you need to pay attention to, to simply press a button and walk away.

      And before people talk about junk and processed foods …. My air fryer is great with chicken breasts and tofu. I’ve used it to cook more actual chicken than processed chicken-like food product. An air fryer is just a tool/gadget: it’s entirely your choice what you use it for

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      Dude, you should get a rice cooker. I’ve never had so little trouble cooking rice before. And as long as it’s not a weird batch of rice, it always comes out near-perfect

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      It was certainly overhyped, but i can’t say i’m opposed to anything that’s: Lower energy usage Quicker (Allegedly) healthier

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        Energy usage is the only consideration for me. It hurts a little when I have to fire up the oven, knowing an air flyer could do it more efficiently. I do use an induction stove for everything else though and that shit is efficient.

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          Otoh tho 2 uses of the airfyer is almost certainly worse than a bigger single session with an oven. Personally I find meal prepping to be important way of saving time and energy alike.

          also in winter both waste no energy since whatever energy is not used for cooking ends up warming your house.

          I dint want to yuck anyone’s yum, but I dont have a lot of use for a tool that only has a benefit half the year when doing small batches.

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      Sometimes you want to cook things at a different temperature which is where I find the air fryer comes in handy. Also for pretty small quantities the air fryer is essentially just a mini oven that heats up quickly.

      If you have a massive kitchen with multiple ovens then sure the air fryer isn’t overly necessary, but my kitchen is tiny and its the only realistic way to have multiple ovens - the air fryer has 2 compartments with a removable divider so I can use it as 1 small or 2 tiny ovens.

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        We have two normal sized ovens. I still prefer to use the air fryer. If only for the fact that it only takes about 8 minutes to make pizza rolls

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            So many of the things that people cook in these nasty little grease machines are processed garbage.

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              That may be true but it doesn’t have to be.

              The processed garbage people feed these with are their choice, and probably due to laziness with packaging giving air fryer directions.

              They are equally effective at cooking food, but you may have to look up time and temperature (or mine gives the rule of thumb to start with regular oven directions, subtract 20°, and subtract 20% from time)

              Mine was useful enough to lol for an air fryer when I bought a new oven, since a major limitation of the small appliance is how little you can cook at once. Even now that my kids are in college so I’m cooking for only one, I rarely cook just one meal at a time- I want at least one leftover meal for my effort

              Tofu is a great example of something that works well in an air fryer but by the time you cube it and spread it out to allow air circulation, the small appliance really doesn’t cook much

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              nasty little grease machines

              You mean the machine that is… an electric heater and a fan?

              are processed garbage

              Meat and cheese rolled into a tortilla? Just sounds to me like you’ve got some kind of grudge against these things.

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                Agreed. They smell like fryers. And they are for making fried food. Not allowed in my house. Nasty.

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                Perhaps that is broadly true. Mostly my oven gets used for baking biscuits. Sometimes I’ll make a lasagna or very rarely a casserole. The only actual dietary sin that takes place there is the occasional pizza. I’m not perfect, I do eat pizza.
                There are no taquitos or chicken tenders or wtf-ever frozen garbage in my home or my oven.

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      Imagine someone telling you they prefer cooking on an open fire pit then use an oven.

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    Can we agree air fryer is just a rebranding of convection oven? Also, it is useful (specifically for smaller kitchens)

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      Air fryers do use air convention for heating, but they aren’t just smaller convection ovens. They have lots of design features that make them much more suited to certain types of cooking. The basket, much higher airflow, etc. all make a big difference in how you use them.

      I had a countertop convection oven that was about the same size as an air fryer and they both had different use cases.

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      ish, except the different form factor gives it a different use case. mostly based on scale. gotta feed 2 to three people, an air fryer will heat up faster and use less energy than heating up the big kitchen oven that will do the same.

      it’s like comparing a kei truck with a semi truck, they do the same at different scales, you just gotta use the one appropriate for your scale.

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          hate to break it to you. but “air fryer” is just a fancy rebranding of “convection toaster oven”.

          so you do have an air fryer.

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            A cheap convection toaster oven not really, it is half-way between an oven and air-fryer at best.

            I mean if it’s good enough, keep using it as long as possible I guess.

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      No, because they have different characteristics. A convection oven moves far less percentage of volume and takes 4x to heat up. If you put the same exact food in each, it will come out differently.

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    I used to dismiss airfryer, think i could just deep fry stuff with a pan/pot, until i realise that i have to wash so many thing and wipe away all those oil from the wall, just for a single piece of hashbrown or 5 or 6 piece of wonton. Getting an airfryer is like a whole new experience, and i can crunch up fried chicken quickly after thawing it with microwave. It’s great!

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    I made my brother take his air frier with him when he moved. I think it made it as far as the dumpster.
    Stinky fukin thing.