• lemmyman@lemmy.world
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    Here is what Obama wrote:

    After two years of unimaginable loss and suffering for Israeli families and the people of Gaza, we should all be encouraged and relieved that an end to the conflict is within sight; that those hostages still being held will be reunited with their families; and that vital aid can start reaching those inside Gaza whose lives have been shattered. More than that, though, it now falls on Israelis and Palestinians, with the support of the U.S. and the entire world community, to begin the hard task of rebuilding Gaza — and to commit to a process that, by recognizing the common humanity and basic rights of both peoples, can achieve a lasting peace.

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      He’s doing the same as for example the BBC does when they say that Israelis are “killed” and Palestinians “die”, that the IDF “says” whilst Hamas “claims” and mention the 7 October “massacre” whilst the mass bombing of Gaza is an “intervention” or at most “invasion”.

      In simple terms: subtly framing one side more positively than the other in order to subconsciously elicit a more positive response in the minds of the audience for one side, all the while claiming neutrality because the message seems neutral, it’s the choice of words which is not.

      This is an old trick from Propaganda.

      So the OP rightly points that specific kind of Propaganda Spin in Obama’s words.

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      Damn what a cunt. He should shut the fuck up.

      “In April 2022, there were 4,450 Palestinian security prisoners in Israeli prisons – including 160 children, 32 women, and over 1,000 “administrative detainees” (indefinitely incarcerated without charge”

      These people and their families also suffering.

      Of course he doesn’t gave a shit. If he cannot stand for oppressed kids and women’s, it is clearly he doesn’t care for oppressed black community in the US.

    • Pearl@lemmy.ml
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      Why are we mad at Obama again? He mind controlling Trump and Bibi?

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        For humanizing the aggressors while dehumanizing the victims in a public statement about genocide

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          By limiting the subject of loss & suffering to the families of Israeli hostages and including every Gazan, respectively? The other Israelis didn’t really suffer like they did.

          Seems a malicious misreading on your part: you guys need to work on your filters instead of choosing a less coherent, most antagonistic interpretation.

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            Thing is any choice would have triggered, the reaction was a given no matter the text

            As written “what, Palestinians aren’t families?”

            Swap it around "by singling out gazan families, are you trying to exclude and and by inference saying those without a family deserve it?

            Use the same term for both? Are you trying to say the suffering for Gaza is the same as Israel?

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            “The families of” and “the people of” reads very differently. And starting it with “the families of Israel” makes that the main point. I have no idea about Obamas views on this, but I know he’s intelligent enough to choose his words carefully. And those words absolutely makes Israeli citizens look more like the victims here.

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              Yeah.

              He’s using a Propaganda trick of choosing certain to elicit more positive feelings in the audience towards one side than towards the other, whilst the message itself seems neutral so he can claim neutrality (even better: people tend to take in more easily messages that seem neutral).

              It’s a form of manipulation, which he deploys to favor Israel (a country to whom under his orders a lot of American Taxpayer’s money was given).

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          TIL: Obama was a murderous bastard

          I remember wondering why the fuck were we drone stroking weddings full of women and children. If Obama can do it why not Trump.

          Thus we get to the crux of the issue.

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            The weddings and the first responders who showed up to help. We tried to terrorize them out of trying to help each other.

            We are a monstrous country.

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        Because he’s shit? Dude loves drone bombing Middle Eastern kids and apparently promoting Zionist dehumanisation tactics.

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        Both sidesing a genocide is pretty contemptable. It’s also pretty contemptable that liberals are pretending the mass genocide wasn’t going on for over a year before Trump was elected

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        He was giving billions to israel to continue occupation and when he is out he pretend to care about Palestinians