It wasn’t new, but look where we were. The main things are we had spent years reducing the deficit, we didn’t have PAC and Super PACs. There is a large difference between then and now.
Foreign policy was similar (well I guess having the president transparently trying to shakedown every country and large corporation on the planet is new). It’s just now all starting to be directed inwards (i.e. “imperial boomerang”).
2001 was pre Iraq and Afghanistan. Yeah we poked in other countries business and did shady stuff. However, we didn’t drain our economy fighting a pointless forever war yet.
We’re looking at the difference between 2001 and 2025. That’s a difference off 24 years. You’re bringing up something that ended 26 years before that… I’m not saying it doesn’t count, but it wasn’t the most relevant thing even in 2001. I think the longest peace time in modern US history is more relevant than the decades old war. In fact I would even assert that the peace time was far more important. It was precisely because of this long peace time that we were prosperous and had an optimistic view of the future.
We’ve been at war most of the U.S. existence. What are you on about? Literally like 10 years of the U.S. existence has been without a declaration of war.
And its relevant specifically bcz you are referencing forever wars as if the Afghanistan/Iraq invasions are the only ones that ever happened.
It wasn’t new, but look where we were. The main things are we had spent years reducing the deficit, we didn’t have PAC and Super PACs. There is a large difference between then and now.
Foreign policy was similar (well I guess having the president transparently trying to shakedown every country and large corporation on the planet is new). It’s just now all starting to be directed inwards (i.e. “imperial boomerang”).
2001 was pre Iraq and Afghanistan. Yeah we poked in other countries business and did shady stuff. However, we didn’t drain our economy fighting a pointless forever war yet.
Vietnam, and Korea…they’d like a word.
The war that ended in 1975? That was a different era.
Right…a twenty year war doesn’t count if it wasn’t done within the last 20 years. Got it.
We’re looking at the difference between 2001 and 2025. That’s a difference off 24 years. You’re bringing up something that ended 26 years before that… I’m not saying it doesn’t count, but it wasn’t the most relevant thing even in 2001. I think the longest peace time in modern US history is more relevant than the decades old war. In fact I would even assert that the peace time was far more important. It was precisely because of this long peace time that we were prosperous and had an optimistic view of the future.
We’ve been at war most of the U.S. existence. What are you on about? Literally like 10 years of the U.S. existence has been without a declaration of war.
And its relevant specifically bcz you are referencing forever wars as if the Afghanistan/Iraq invasions are the only ones that ever happened.
Thanks for proving my point that the peace time was so important in the context of 2001.