Dwazoupp@lemmy.world to Progressive Politics@lemmy.world · edit-21 day agoThe Nation, oldest progressive newspaper in the US, doesn't pull any puncheswww.thenation.comexternal-linkmessage-square80fedilinkarrow-up1642arrow-down13
arrow-up1639arrow-down1external-linkThe Nation, oldest progressive newspaper in the US, doesn't pull any puncheswww.thenation.comDwazoupp@lemmy.world to Progressive Politics@lemmy.world · edit-21 day agomessage-square80fedilink
minus-squarepeetabix@sh.itjust.workslinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up7arrow-down1·13 hours ago freedom of speech does not equal freedom from the consequences of saying something. Exactly.
minus-squareLushed_Lungfish@lemmy.calinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up8·10 hours agoI’ve seen it summed it up thusly: “If your speech incites violence, don’t be surprised when people use violence in response.”
minus-squareOccamsRazer@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up1arrow-down5·9 hours agoSo I guess fights at professional sports games are justified violence, since someone probably incited it by insulting an opposing player.
minus-squarebrisk@aussie.zonelinkfedilinkarrow-up8·8 hours agoYou’re confusing incitement and provocation. Incitement involves actively encouraging action. “you’re bad at hockey and your mother is large” might be provocation “It is time for us to take up arms against the enemy” is incitement
minus-squareOccamsRazer@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up1·4 hours agoI think a lot of people are confused about what constitutes incitement.
Exactly.
I’ve seen it summed it up thusly: “If your speech incites violence, don’t be surprised when people use violence in response.”
So I guess fights at professional sports games are justified violence, since someone probably incited it by insulting an opposing player.
You’re confusing incitement and provocation.
Incitement involves actively encouraging action.
“you’re bad at hockey and your mother is large” might be provocation
“It is time for us to take up arms against the enemy” is incitement
I think a lot of people are confused about what constitutes incitement.