Dwazoupp@lemmy.world to Progressive Politics@lemmy.world · edit-22 months agoThe Nation, oldest progressive newspaper in the US, doesn't pull any puncheswww.thenation.comexternal-linkmessage-square102fedilinkarrow-up1742arrow-down15
arrow-up1737arrow-down1external-linkThe Nation, oldest progressive newspaper in the US, doesn't pull any puncheswww.thenation.comDwazoupp@lemmy.world to Progressive Politics@lemmy.world · edit-22 months agomessage-square102fedilink
minus-squareLushed_Lungfish@lemmy.calinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up12·2 months agoI’ve seen it summed it up thusly: “If your speech incites violence, don’t be surprised when people use violence in response.”
minus-squareOccamsRazer@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up1arrow-down6·2 months agoSo I guess fights at professional sports games are justified violence, since someone probably incited it by insulting an opposing player.
minus-squarebrisk@aussie.zonelinkfedilinkarrow-up10·2 months agoYou’re confusing incitement and provocation. Incitement involves actively encouraging action. “you’re bad at hockey and your mother is large” might be provocation “It is time for us to take up arms against the enemy” is incitement
minus-squareOccamsRazer@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up2·2 months agoI think a lot of people are confused about what constitutes incitement.
minus-squaresqgl@sh.itjust.workslinkfedilinkarrow-up1·2 months agoYeah would be clearer to say “advocating for violence”.
minus-squareprole@lemmy.blahaj.zonelinkfedilinkarrow-up1·2 months agoThis is unironically true for hockey lol
I’ve seen it summed it up thusly: “If your speech incites violence, don’t be surprised when people use violence in response.”
So I guess fights at professional sports games are justified violence, since someone probably incited it by insulting an opposing player.
You’re confusing incitement and provocation.
Incitement involves actively encouraging action.
“you’re bad at hockey and your mother is large” might be provocation
“It is time for us to take up arms against the enemy” is incitement
I think a lot of people are confused about what constitutes incitement.
Yeah would be clearer to say “advocating for violence”.
This is unironically true for hockey lol