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    At least make a funny joke if you’re going to mock murder victims. “LOL HE GARGLED AND CHOKED ON HIS BLOOD” is not an attempt at dark humor, it’s just enjoying death and violence.

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        Rittenhouse defended himself against criminals trying to kill him, shooting one of them in the arm just as he was lowering a pistol to point it at him.

        Nobody would be “celebrating” him if people didn’t try to vilify him and lock him in prison for the rest of his life.

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          Lol. That was good but you need to double down on the irony at the end or else people might think you’re serious. Maybe rift on him crossing state lines.

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            Maybe rift on him crossing state lines.

            Very true.

            Rittenhouse traveled all the way to some far off city he had no interest in. Sure, his father, grandmother, aunt, uncle, and cousin live there. Sure, he stayed with his friend who lived there. And he used to work as a lifeguard there. But otherwise, he only went there because he’s racist. That’s why he shot a couple white people.

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        i’d send this to my grandpa who keeps asking the family to stop celebrating, but he’d just get more pissed

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      The reason people are making these types of posts is because he was a blatant racist (source) who said that little kids being killed in school shootings is “worth it” (source) ridiculed disabled people in his circles (source) and said that children should witness public executions (source)

      Yes he was murdered but not all murder victims are innocent saints either

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        He had a following cheering him on, too.

        There’s a family of kids who’ve died to school shooters. In a lot of cases, they’re very upset and have very little to live for.

        He was perpetuating it. I’m honestly shocked it took this long.

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          I actually find it encouraging that people still respond to “evil.” Like yeah we don’t allow people to just be openly evil anymore. That sounds like a good change.

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        he was a blatant racist

        I’m not seeing it. Most those quotes were about affirmative action logically causing him to question the qualifications of blacks (because their race got them there via affirmative action). The rest are simply not racist or just bashing specific black individuals.

        I’ll say this is the only one even worth discussing, as it requires a lot of nuance. The other points below aren’t good.

        little kids being killed in school shootings is “worth it”

        If he could, I’m sure he would say his own death was “worth it” in the context of being able to live in a country with gun rights. There are like ~1200 children killed by cars every year. Would you say that’s not worth having cars? Would you outlaw them?

        ridiculed disabled people in his circles

        Making a joke about blind people is insensitive, but not even half the insensitivity of the meme in this post. I won’t defend him necessarily except to say this is a pretty mild offense, especially for someone everyone is calling a fascist who deserved public execution. I’d expect something a bit more dire.

        said that children should witness public executions

        Do you know why? And do you have a reason for being so strongly against that? I don’t have a reason. I don’t know any studies on how this affects kids, but it could very well be a good idea.

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              Nah, you just assume that making kids watch public executions might have some benefit, which is to say you’re open to public executions in general. Eat shit, you fucking fascist. Go play with your dispersion trash some more, you fucking loser.

              Also, the vote ratio on my comment vs yours kind of outlines how fucking dumb your comment is.

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                you’re open to public executions in general.

                You act like you’re not, in a thread of people celebrating a public killing. 🤔

                I would actually be against public executions for political assassins like Vance Boelter, Tyler Robinson, and Luigi Mangione. It would radicalize more people, potentially making them more of a martyr for a cause.

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                  Not being mad about a fascist who advocates for public shootings as a necessity for society getting popped while advocating such isn’t at all the same thing as supporting governmental public executions. Are you just against those specific people having public executions, because you haven’t denounced the idea other than those specific cases? What about making children watch, still on board with giving that a go? Who would you like to watch get hanged?

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                    Not being mad about a fascist who advocates for public shootings as a necessity for society getting popped

                    So you don’t think he deserved it? Aren’t celebrating it?

                    I’m not opposed to public executions in general. The only problem I see with Kirk’s logic (which was that it would deter children from crime), is that only extreme violent crimes like murder would be deserving of execution. And allowing children to see killers getting killed isn’t exactly going to deter them from typical crimes, just murder.

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              I don’t assume that. When did anyone ever say that? What are you talking about?

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      Questioner: “Do you know how many mass shooters there have been in America over the last 10 years?”

      Charlie: “Counting or not counting gang violence”

      Charlie then gets shot in the neck.

      His literal last moment is him deflecting the question to a right wing dog whistle

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        How is that a deflection? Excluding gang violence from mass shootings would change the number dramatically. So how could he give an accurate answer without knowing?

        The definition of “mass shooting” varies and can potentially exclude gang violence. Excluding gang violence is often useful since most people don’t care about criminals killing each other (which is most of gang shootings), and prefer to talking about innocent people who are shot.

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      The joke is that he was willing to let some people die at the altar of the Second Amendment (not him, of course), then he become one of those “some people.”

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      if you don’t see the irony in the circumstances of his death, you may be stupid

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        It only qualifies as ironic if Kirk would not support being a part of the “price worth paying” for gun rights. Do you actually believe he would’ve only accepted the deaths of others and not of himself?

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            Nothing I’ve seen would suggest that he was not willing to die for gun rights. Seems more like you cannot even comprehend someone being principled and politically consistent. Seems like projection to me.

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              Yeah, that’s why he traveled around with all of those armed guards and security, right? Seems like sycophancy to me.

              Edit: learn to draw, you unskilled bitch.

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                I guess people in the military aren’t willing to die for anything either. After all, they wear body armor and use weapons against their enemies.

                You can’t be so stupid as to think a willingness to die is the same as trying to die.

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                  Security and armed guards aren’t a sign of being willing to die for what you believe, they’re a sign of fear. Did Kirk ever join the military? Was he a soldier? That’s a moot comparison when talking about a fucking media personality who has been groomed and coddled by the GOP to be a rhetoric output machine since he was 18.

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      We’d mostly have a different views if he weren’t openly advocating for school shootings. He was literally framing them as a good thing. He was shock and awe, and drawing followers. It’s not all jokes, people are happy he’s dead and rightfully so imo.

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        When did he frame school shootings as good? Are you referring to when he said they were acceptable deaths if they were required to keep the 2nd amendment? Because that doesn’t make them a good thing, it makes them tolerable.

        Kinda like how we tolerate ~350 toddlers dying in swimming pools every year and nobody demands that we ban swimming pools.

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          Stop using that tired false equivalence. The purpose of cars isn’t to kill. The purpose of pools isn’t to kill. The purpose of guns is to kill.

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            So you want to outlaw everything designed to kill, I take it? Fine.

            What about police officers that use guns to kill people who are actively attempting to kill others? If they’re disarmed, more of these people will succeed in killing innocent people, right?

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          I’ve had enough of you. I encourage everyone here to just block you.

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            I see the real reason you guys hated Kirk so much. You seem very uncomfortable confronting differing opinions. That’s not politically healthy.

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      I mean in regards to the shitstain racist sexist propagandist in question I actually find “LOL HE GARGLED AND CHOKED ON HIS OWN BLOOD” fucking hilarious.

      Evil people dying is funnier than stand up comedy to me.