• Frenchfryenjoyer (she/her)@lemmings.world
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    The reason people are making these types of posts is because he was a blatant racist (source) who said that little kids being killed in school shootings is “worth it” (source) ridiculed disabled people in his circles (source) and said that children should witness public executions (source)

    Yes he was murdered but not all murder victims are innocent saints either

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      He had a following cheering him on, too.

      There’s a family of kids who’ve died to school shooters. In a lot of cases, they’re very upset and have very little to live for.

      He was perpetuating it. I’m honestly shocked it took this long.

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        I actually find it encouraging that people still respond to “evil.” Like yeah we don’t allow people to just be openly evil anymore. That sounds like a good change.

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      he was a blatant racist

      I’m not seeing it. Most those quotes were about affirmative action logically causing him to question the qualifications of blacks (because their race got them there via affirmative action). The rest are simply not racist or just bashing specific black individuals.

      I’ll say this is the only one even worth discussing, as it requires a lot of nuance. The other points below aren’t good.

      little kids being killed in school shootings is “worth it”

      If he could, I’m sure he would say his own death was “worth it” in the context of being able to live in a country with gun rights. There are like ~1200 children killed by cars every year. Would you say that’s not worth having cars? Would you outlaw them?

      ridiculed disabled people in his circles

      Making a joke about blind people is insensitive, but not even half the insensitivity of the meme in this post. I won’t defend him necessarily except to say this is a pretty mild offense, especially for someone everyone is calling a fascist who deserved public execution. I’d expect something a bit more dire.

      said that children should witness public executions

      Do you know why? And do you have a reason for being so strongly against that? I don’t have a reason. I don’t know any studies on how this affects kids, but it could very well be a good idea.

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            Nah, you just assume that making kids watch public executions might have some benefit, which is to say you’re open to public executions in general. Eat shit, you fucking fascist. Go play with your dispersion trash some more, you fucking loser.

            Also, the vote ratio on my comment vs yours kind of outlines how fucking dumb your comment is.

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              you’re open to public executions in general.

              You act like you’re not, in a thread of people celebrating a public killing. 🤔

              I would actually be against public executions for political assassins like Vance Boelter, Tyler Robinson, and Luigi Mangione. It would radicalize more people, potentially making them more of a martyr for a cause.

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                Not being mad about a fascist who advocates for public shootings as a necessity for society getting popped while advocating such isn’t at all the same thing as supporting governmental public executions. Are you just against those specific people having public executions, because you haven’t denounced the idea other than those specific cases? What about making children watch, still on board with giving that a go? Who would you like to watch get hanged?

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                  Not being mad about a fascist who advocates for public shootings as a necessity for society getting popped

                  So you don’t think he deserved it? Aren’t celebrating it?

                  I’m not opposed to public executions in general. The only problem I see with Kirk’s logic (which was that it would deter children from crime), is that only extreme violent crimes like murder would be deserving of execution. And allowing children to see killers getting killed isn’t exactly going to deter them from typical crimes, just murder.

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                    Nah, he definitely had it coming and I’m glad he’s dead, but I’m not about to watch the video if I can help it, I don’t want to watch anyone die, that’s fucked, and I’m not celebrating, I just don’t think him being dead is a bad thing, especially since this is the exact thing he said he supported as necessary, he just got a dose of his own rhetoric in action.

                    You’re straight up fucked in the head, amigo. You not only want to watch people get murdered in public, you also want to make children watch people get murdered because you think it will atop violent crime, which it obviously wouldn’t. That’s just barbarism. You’re fucking broken. Fascist trash piece of shit that can’t even make your own art. You’re garbage, through and through. Go fuck yourself.

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            I don’t assume that. When did anyone ever say that? What are you talking about?