hmm, I’ll have to look at that range for my next vehicle.
for my preferred budget, I’m looking at 2010 to 2015, but that’s mostly because they stopped making economical wagons after that point (Toyota Matrix and Hyundai Elantra Touring are what I’m looking at)
it seems like even in that year range, once you get above the low cost vehicles, they start introducing shitty tech. but I haven’t looked closely enough at things in the last 10 years to see how they’ve progressed year to year, because frankly it’s just more money than I want to spend
Mine’s 5th gen, so it’s bigger than the one he’s got.
Mine’s also stick. 5th gen (2017-2023) is the last gen with the manual. Other than the WRX and the BRZ, all the new ones are auto only.
Also, 155k, still on the OG 5 speed. Had to put new center diff (limited slip component was not limiting slip properly), but otherwise still good. Yes it has gearwhine, it’s had it for 100k miles now.
I don’t expect anything but a van to be able to carry a full sheet of plywood, but I can do 3x7 inside my car now, and bought a trailer for full sheets
it’s the 8 footers and general length and height of rear hatch that concerns me. even my outback is pretty low, a regular hatchback loses another few inches and that’s too restrictive on the hatch dimensions
I have accepted that I may need to just up my budget and buy a Volvo instead of a beater-adjacent vehicle
Well, got back 4 more and you are pre OBD2 and modern emissions sure, but now you’re dealing with a technically ‘classic’ car and the rust, wear and tear, and parts availability issues that come w it.
2014 - 2018 will get you a modern car without a touch screen or Internet connection, which is what I’m really after.
Physical controls I can use with my eyes on the road, and not a subscription to worry about.
After many such threads I’ve come to the conclusion that peak car is between 2014 and 2018.
I’m old enough to believe I’ll never have to drive something with a touch screen.
I design touch screen UI as part of my job and I can see no argument for one in a vehicle other than GPS, and for that I have my phone.
hmm, I’ll have to look at that range for my next vehicle.
for my preferred budget, I’m looking at 2010 to 2015, but that’s mostly because they stopped making economical wagons after that point (Toyota Matrix and Hyundai Elantra Touring are what I’m looking at)
it seems like even in that year range, once you get above the low cost vehicles, they start introducing shitty tech. but I haven’t looked closely enough at things in the last 10 years to see how they’ve progressed year to year, because frankly it’s just more money than I want to spend
2014 Subaru Impreza sport wagon and I couldn’t be happier.
Had to basically replace the entire tans at 80k miles this year, but otherwise bullet proof.
is there a proper wagon in that year? I thought it was just the sloped hatchback style still
tbh haven’t paid much attention to them because every one I see looks just ever so slightly too small
I’ll have to find one to look at, tbh I kind of hate Subaru seats, at least all the ones I’ve sat in
Mine’s 5th gen, so it’s bigger than the one he’s got.
Mine’s also stick. 5th gen (2017-2023) is the last gen with the manual. Other than the WRX and the BRZ, all the new ones are auto only.
Also, 155k, still on the OG 5 speed. Had to put new center diff (limited slip component was not limiting slip properly), but otherwise still good. Yes it has gearwhine, it’s had it for 100k miles now.
No, not in the sense you mean, it’s a 5 door hatch back. The gold standard was always “Can it fit a sheet of plywood?”, and no not a chance.
With the roof rack it can carry whatever ,including the giant tree that fell on it five years ago that makes me not care if I carry anything on it.
If you have the money, buy the all wheel drive Volvo wagon, it’s what I’m looking at next.
I don’t expect anything but a van to be able to carry a full sheet of plywood, but I can do 3x7 inside my car now, and bought a trailer for full sheets
it’s the 8 footers and general length and height of rear hatch that concerns me. even my outback is pretty low, a regular hatchback loses another few inches and that’s too restrictive on the hatch dimensions
I have accepted that I may need to just up my budget and buy a Volvo instead of a beater-adjacent vehicle
Subaru Wagons
I have one right now, but they stopped making wagons in 2010
they have hatchbacks and crossovers/SUVs
I’d cap it at 2000.
Well, got back 4 more and you are pre OBD2 and modern emissions sure, but now you’re dealing with a technically ‘classic’ car and the rust, wear and tear, and parts availability issues that come w it.
2014 - 2018 will get you a modern car without a touch screen or Internet connection, which is what I’m really after.
Physical controls I can use with my eyes on the road, and not a subscription to worry about.