• maskquerade@ttrpg.network
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      It’s one of the few places on the internet that still allows freedom of speech.

      The last thing I want is to be stuck with curated spaces where people like you get to decide what I get to see.

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        Lol its a hate speech site, nazi bar. They literally use n-words. As someone from a family of immigrants, I don’t deal with bigotry like “go back to your country”, so no thanks, you can go enjoy the toxicity if you want lol.

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    I might not like what you have to say, but I’ll defend to death, your right to say it kinda shit

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        There is an obvious reason why countries like Germany make a strong stance against any “trolling” nazi joke/imagery/salute.

        But America’s First Amendment seems to not understand that reason (or only understand when it is weaponized against communism, black people, trans rights and all the “woke culture” stuff)

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        Everyone has a different definition, but yeah generally free speech in an ideal sense extends to just before you start causing what a reasonable person would concern harm to someone.

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          Fuck that. People spreading racial hate and public lies with the intention to mislead the public should be locked up.

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            I would say intent matters and while it’s impossible to truly determine it, we still have a distinction for murder/manslaughter and negligence.

            If a politician lies or hides something for personal gain, that should be illegal, but there’s so much stuff the state does where it’s best if the general public don’t know, public order would probably break down pretty quickly otherwise.

            Same with racial hate. If it’s just stating an opinion, fine, I probably don’t agree but go ahead. If you’re actively trying to harm (mentally, economically, socially or physically) that group, or inciting others to do the same, then that’s not fine.

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              I can’t think of where “racial hate” could possibly be “just stating an opinion” without also causing harm that is both mental and social.

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    It’s ridiculous for the UK to issue fines to a company who doesn’t operate in the country. Just block access if that’s whatever your stupid laws dictate.

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      EU fined number of tech giants before, this is not new. If you have users and derive income from a country, you are operating in this country.

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        Those tech giants operate in the EU and have EU customers. 4Chan does neither and stores no user data. At that point the onus is on the user and the UK/EU should be going after their own citizens that use it if they have a problem with it being used. Ideally, they wouldn’t go after anyone but here we are.

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    Well the internet is written mostly by bots. Everything needs Id and spying. We may end up building a new internet so fuck the old internet

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        Oh meshtastic is really cool but even without GPS broadcasting, it is FAR from private. There are some serious flaws with its encryption apparently that the devs don’t want to address, and im like 99% sure you can just be triangulated anyway.

        That being said, meshtastic is awesome and everyone should try it. Its a lot of fun and you can “meet” cool people in your community who are kind of maketspace-adjacent.

        Also don’t listen to the meshcore grifters, meshcore is proprietary and requires you to pay for licenses to use its full feature set. They’re like reverse Linux users who just show up whenever meshtastic is mentioned to try to convince you to give your freedoms away

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    Don’t they ban VPNs lol? Been years since I even thought about this place

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      4chan itself is next to impossible to post on due to captchas and cooldowns.

      You need to be using something like owo.vg, which I believe is somehow related to kiwifarms. It allows users to post with a VPN and makes sure the cooldowns actually work. On normal 4chan, you’re hit with a cooldown and then it just restarts when the time is up.

      Kinda ridiculous how difficult it is to engage on a free speech platform, but i guess that’s by design. The powers that be want to make sure we’re all being herded to their safespaces where we can’t say what we want.

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          It would be more productive to ban twitter and facebook. Way more hate goes on in those places anyway, but old media needs them, so their problems don’t get mentioned. 4chan is the internet’s wiping boy.

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      ℹ️ Outside of London, the GDP of the UK is at the level of either Missouri or Mississippi, and both are so bad I don’t even need to check which one it is. When you pass a banknote back and forth with your mate that boosts GDP. Britain is now widely known to be a hoax. Experts consider the country functionally uninhabited, much like “Australia”.

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        So, while I don’t know anything real about the UK, having been there once, it surely felt and feels from their people in the interwebs that you are right.