• Armand1@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    Yeah, living in the UK I’m not surprised.

    Right wing lies are spread non-stop to blame people on benefits, immigrants or the EU for problems caused by poor policy decisions, usually those made in service of people who are already rich.

    I’ve personally met people who think that benefit cheats (people who are getting “too much” financial support from tej government) are a huge problem, when they make up only a tiny amount of our costs compared to wage theft, military spending and tax breaks.

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      In france companies gets 279 BILLION euros of help every year (of course no verification is done, and it’s hidden in “lower charges/taxes” instead of “handouts”). Thats 900€ per working person.

      Per month.

      And we’re supposed to be angry at poor people just trying to get by? I wonder why /s

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      They have no understanding of statistics or causality and correlation… they lack any critical thinking skills and blindly believe what they are told and can normally be guaranteed to consume their media from predictable sources (facebook, telegraph, daily mail, xhitter and so forth).

      My sister is becoming one of those… she refuses to watch the news because it’s depressing and has no understanding of the world outside of her own little bubble or facebook… she voted for brexit and has tried to deny it ever since instead of admitting she was fooled into doing so by the lies of racists, rich wankers who wanted to protect their tax haves and avoidance. I wouldn’t be surprised to find out she voted for reform or tory last election or would do in the next.

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        They don’t even have a basic understanding of anything nor the curiosity to pursue something.

        I’ve spoken to far too many people buying the anti immigration rhetoric, particularly asylum, and I’ll just simply ask them how do you apply for asylum here and not a fucking one can tell me basic information from our own government website.

        When I say well you have to be in the country to make an application so we have created this so called boats crisis.

        Then you can ask what would a solution to this be and it’s just vacant stares. Rather than hey we could let people apply from Europe and then the boats stop.

        This is the same for the correlation between Brexit and us being unable to send back as may people and all other topics.

        For the first time in my life I feel a glimmer of hope with The Green Party as they’re literally giving all the same talking points that this dumb ass pot head has been forcing down my mates throats for decades.

        The other thing is it works with close friends if you push back or ask simple questions enough they actually begin to notice and then you can really feel some pride when your best mates will argue your talking points against others and you just sit and marvel at your creation and think I did that, whether I am right or wrong in my beliefs someone respected me enough to listen and think for themselves for once.

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          It gets even better when you tell them that the tories, removed every single legal way to apply for asylum, leaving the only possible way for them to apply is to get here illegally and make their claim then. It’s literally an artificial and deliberately engineered problem to stoke division and rile up the bigots to vote for those promising to fix the problem… and all of those making those promises are grifters only looking to gain power and wealth for themselves.

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        I dont blame her for denying it. I get enough grief for telling people I chose not to vote because I didnt understand it.

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          The difference is that you are honest about your reasons, she lies because she’s too ashamed to admit that she was conned… you are not the same.

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      And this is because 99% of our press is explicitly right-wing and has a somewhat fuzzy relationship with truth.

      Thanks, Murdoch!

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        Capitalists should not be allowed to own media. Or really have any say whatsoever over how society functions. Why would any society allow someone whose sole interest is themselves to have power over anyone else?