If I have to read one more fucking idiot say how it was better to abstain from voting or vote 3rd party than vote Harris because the Biden admin supported Israel I am going to lose my mind.
Like, yeah guess who else is sucking Netanyahu’s dick and simultaneously doing way worse heinous shit here at home than a Harris admin ever would do. Fuck not just at home, overseas too, pretty sure she wouldn’t have had USAID dismantled and condemned millions to starvation.
But sure hope you feel great about not voting for Harris so we could get someone objectively worse on all fronts, including the Israel / Palestine conflict.
Obviously you don’t understand that liberal means a terrible thing in other countries. Or, so I am reliably informed here. Regularly. Like, constantly.
Why did the deaths start going up dramatically again in 2025?! WEIRD RIGHT? I WONDER WHAT FUCKING CHANGED. ITS ALMOST LIKE THE PEOPLE PULLING THE TRIGGER NO LONGER HAD ANYONE WITH THE POWER TO AFFECT CHANGE PUTTING PRESSURE ON THEM TO STOP
I wish these relevant sourced arguments could bring some around, but they won’t in large part because many of these comments are not American voters and just want to vent.
Just like we did when we were kids. Except we live here and we vote.
I was raised republican and you would be even more surprised how completely ineffective this would have been on me in the past. The people that continue to vote republican are so much dumber than you realize. Like find a source that disagrees with them, so they go find new source type dumb.
Who said anyone was fine with it? Harris and even Biden were working on negotiating to get a peace deal in place. Biden was definitely pro-Israel which I think was part of the problem.
I believe Harris would have reigned in Israel quite a lot and would have had the US step in as mediators if they didn’t commit to the peace agreement. Instead since Harris lost, Israel was allowed to pretty do whatever they wanted and are pretty much still doing what they want.
Who do you think wanted to create friction for voters so that some of them would sit out and open up a situation like this? Bad actors. The peace deal was getting pushed back again and again because the people in power saw this as the perfect wedge issue to divide left leaning people.
Lol, no, I’m certainly not. I do what I can within my limited means although I’m sure I could do more. Sadly, just by virtue of voting, I’ve done more than the majority of my countrymen but I certainly am no paragon of virtue.
I am a realist though. Realistically the Palestinian people would have been better off, or at the least not worse off, with a Harris administration at the helm.
Regardless, the diplomacy would have been carried out by the statesmen in the background if she was in office or Trump - Trump just comes with massive baggage.
Geez, calling me a morally bankrupt coward is just a tad bit mean, don’t ya know? Also doesn’t really address the actual real world we’re in where we are voting on an office which is making decisions that go far beyond only the tiny part of the world that is Israel/Palestine.
Like I don’t know how naive and narrow minded one has to be to think a world with Trump in charge of the USA is better than the alternative.
Like, obviously, if I could waive a magic wand I’d change a whole fuckpile of stuff about our government and our system of living as a whole. Unfortunately, presumably, much like yourself, I’m not magic.
A lot of our friends here have only a mass-media understanding of American politics. And given that mass media is utterly terrible, it’s . . . a crooked understanding.
I don’t owe civility to anyone making excuses for the fucking democrats, nothing about the “real world” requires you to accept their complicity in genocide you decided to do that shit on your own
Nah, Netanyahu makes me ashamed of my Jewish heritage, the whole state of Israel and what it has been doing really does tbh. They’re probably literally making people antisemitic since they try to conflate that with being anti Israel even though it’s squarely separate.
Would be like saying people criticizing the USA are anti Christian or something along those lines.
Anyways, no, I think you know the right answer is Trump.
Nobody is simping for Netanyahu I just would prefer a world where Harris won and Trump lost. Part of the reason Harris lost was people not voting for the Dem candidate and actively helping a person who has an even worse track record on Israeli-Palestinian relations win the office of the president.
It makes no sense. It’s like not voting to have a golf ball put up your ass so the pineapple can get shoved up there instead.
If I have to read one more fucking idiot say how it was better to abstain from voting or vote 3rd party than vote Harris because the Biden admin supported Israel I am going to lose my mind.
Like, yeah guess who else is sucking Netanyahu’s dick and simultaneously doing way worse heinous shit here at home than a Harris admin ever would do. Fuck not just at home, overseas too, pretty sure she wouldn’t have had USAID dismantled and condemned millions to starvation.
But sure hope you feel great about not voting for Harris so we could get someone objectively worse on all fronts, including the Israel / Palestine conflict.
I highly doubt Kamala would be using $100k missiles to kill venezuelan fisherman.
Obviously you don’t understand that liberal means a terrible thing in other countries. Or, so I am reliably informed here. Regularly. Like, constantly.
It’s neat how it was either vote for not-trump or get trump, and so many haters loved them some trump.
You’re fine with trading the lives of innocent palestinians to maintain your own comfort and security, you deserve Trump and worse
Trump was far worse for Palestine though. So much worse.
Here’s an article about a 38 page plan for a new gaza-flavored trail of tears so they can turn the Gaza strip into a resort.
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/09/01/gaza-riviera-trump-administration-weighs-post-war-redevelopment-plan.html
Is this what you non-voted for? I ask because this or something just as bad is going to happen to those people.
How about this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Gaza_war_deaths_by_month.png
Why did the deaths start going up dramatically again in 2025?! WEIRD RIGHT? I WONDER WHAT FUCKING CHANGED. ITS ALMOST LIKE THE PEOPLE PULLING THE TRIGGER NO LONGER HAD ANYONE WITH THE POWER TO AFFECT CHANGE PUTTING PRESSURE ON THEM TO STOP
Trump is the same for Palestine, he’s worse for you and that’s the only part you give a shit about
objectively wrong
Anything’s possible when you make shit up
I wish these relevant sourced arguments could bring some around, but they won’t in large part because many of these comments are not American voters and just want to vent.
Just like we did when we were kids. Except we live here and we vote.
I was raised republican and you would be even more surprised how completely ineffective this would have been on me in the past. The people that continue to vote republican are so much dumber than you realize. Like find a source that disagrees with them, so they go find new source type dumb.
Who said anyone was fine with it? Harris and even Biden were working on negotiating to get a peace deal in place. Biden was definitely pro-Israel which I think was part of the problem.
I believe Harris would have reigned in Israel quite a lot and would have had the US step in as mediators if they didn’t commit to the peace agreement. Instead since Harris lost, Israel was allowed to pretty do whatever they wanted and are pretty much still doing what they want.
Who do you think wanted to create friction for voters so that some of them would sit out and open up a situation like this? Bad actors. The peace deal was getting pushed back again and again because the people in power saw this as the perfect wedge issue to divide left leaning people.
Delusional
Exactly, the division is all about crafting narratives to divide and conquer. Just like what we’ve seen occurring.
Bad actors want people to prey upon and exploit the left’s bleeding hearts.
“Everyone who disagrees with me is russian propaganda” lol cope
Who said only Russia is doing it? Israel, China, Iran, and a host other countries all pay to do espionage. Much of it is from bots as well of course!
Here’s an example of Russia getting caught last year just for some substantiation though.
Lol, no, I’m certainly not. I do what I can within my limited means although I’m sure I could do more. Sadly, just by virtue of voting, I’ve done more than the majority of my countrymen but I certainly am no paragon of virtue.
I am a realist though. Realistically the Palestinian people would have been better off, or at the least not worse off, with a Harris administration at the helm.
Regardless, the diplomacy would have been carried out by the statesmen in the background if she was in office or Trump - Trump just comes with massive baggage.
“Realistically I had no choice but to be a morally bankrupt coward” lol fuck off
Geez, calling me a morally bankrupt coward is just a tad bit mean, don’t ya know? Also doesn’t really address the actual real world we’re in where we are voting on an office which is making decisions that go far beyond only the tiny part of the world that is Israel/Palestine.
Like I don’t know how naive and narrow minded one has to be to think a world with Trump in charge of the USA is better than the alternative.
Like, obviously, if I could waive a magic wand I’d change a whole fuckpile of stuff about our government and our system of living as a whole. Unfortunately, presumably, much like yourself, I’m not magic.
A lot of our friends here have only a mass-media understanding of American politics. And given that mass media is utterly terrible, it’s . . . a crooked understanding.
I don’t owe civility to anyone making excuses for the fucking democrats, nothing about the “real world” requires you to accept their complicity in genocide you decided to do that shit on your own
Lol you’re such a silly goose.
You stand for absolutely nothing, you deserve Trump and worse
I hope your day/life gets better, you seem very upset.
Be fair. Centrists were willing to sacrifice everyone’s comfort and stability as long as they didn’t have to tell netanyahu no.
Lol you’re not wrong
You.
Nah, Netanyahu makes me ashamed of my Jewish heritage, the whole state of Israel and what it has been doing really does tbh. They’re probably literally making people antisemitic since they try to conflate that with being anti Israel even though it’s squarely separate.
Would be like saying people criticizing the USA are anti Christian or something along those lines.
Anyways, no, I think you know the right answer is Trump.
Him too. But he’s not on this thread being a simp for netanyahu. You are.
Nobody is simping for Netanyahu I just would prefer a world where Harris won and Trump lost. Part of the reason Harris lost was people not voting for the Dem candidate and actively helping a person who has an even worse track record on Israeli-Palestinian relations win the office of the president.
It makes no sense. It’s like not voting to have a golf ball put up your ass so the pineapple can get shoved up there instead.