Yeah, as a Mercedes guy (currently driving an Audi, but that’s an entirely different story that I’d like to end as soon as possible) I’d like to discount anyone whose Mercedes costs over 100k from our ranks. When it’s at least 10 or 15 years old, the second or third or whatever owner can be considered a Mercedes person again.
The brand new G class folks in particular give us a very bad rep, since it’s usually rich assholes who care about the looks, rather than its excellent offroad capabilities. Those of us driving stuff from previous eras love the excellent engineering, the cars that are built to keep going forever if maintained… And then you’ve got assholes like this ruining the three-pointed for everyone.
Why do we need both, then? Cars are always going to come at the detriment of other forms of transportation. Cars have externalities that no other form has; every time you drive a km, you kill a fractional human being. How do you do the math on that and decide you liking cars is more important than the significant fraction of a human being that you kill? It’s like alcohol; there’s no good amount, but the addicts are going to insist otherwise on the flimsiest of evidence.
Because sometimes I like getting there in one hour instead of 4 by train because my route isn’t common enough to build a railroad for, so I’d have to take two trains. This goes for more than one place I sometimes need to get to. Keep in mind, I live in a properly small town currently.
You also kill a fractional human being every time you take the bus or train, the fraction is just significantly smaller. But it’s there.
You can think cars are problem while acknowledging aspects they are necessary in. Off road on a bike is ludicrously difficult, impossible on trains or busses, and dangerous at times on foot.
Acknowledging it as the problem is a fallacy, acknowledging as a tool is important. You use the right tool for the job, not the most convenient. The issue is that we live in a society that sees vice grips as good enough for the job, and anything as a hammer. Using the right tool is important but laziness is easiest.
Literally responded to another comment already: just because I like cars doesn’t mean I favour car dependency or car-centric city design. Those are the things this community used to be against, not me driving between towns that will never receive a direct rail connection.
Also subs are a reddit thing, why use that terminology here?
I personally meant 80s, 90s and 00s as my favourite periods, but okay. Let’s go with that logic.
The Deutsche Reichsbahn was used to transport Jewish people to concentration camps, and the current Deutsche Bahn is a successor. Should Germans protest trains then?
Actually, matter of fact, Škoda tech was extensively used by the nazis (both Škoda tanks and guns, in fact), so really I can’t take the train here in Estonia anymore either, I might catch a Škoda by accident..
For distances outside of bicycle reach, that leaves me Uyghur genocide flavored cars, hypercapitalist corporatocracy flavored cars (South Korea consists of like 3 companies, one of them being Hyundai and Kia), Hirohito cars and buses (some bus services here use Isuzu), or nazi cars and buses. Or I guess Mussolini cars and Trump cars, but who wants anything Italian or American anyway.
If you consider historic ties of different companies to dictatorships that ended 80 years ago, you can honestly be left unable to use any mode of transport other than a bicycle, depending on where you live. Don’t get me wrong, I love bicycles, I used to willingly cycle 15 km to gym (and then 15 km back) as a teenager instead of taking the bus. But a lot of the time, bicycles aren’t practical, and nearly every car, train or bus company has been at some point connected to some dictatorship.
He drives a G-Class SUV, they start at $148,000.
He beat a bicyclist unconscious just for complaining.
I think the assumption that he’s a rich, entitled douche is justified.
Dunno sounds more like psychopath behaviour …
That’s what they said.
Yeah, as a Mercedes guy (currently driving an Audi, but that’s an entirely different story that I’d like to end as soon as possible) I’d like to discount anyone whose Mercedes costs over 100k from our ranks. When it’s at least 10 or 15 years old, the second or third or whatever owner can be considered a Mercedes person again.
The brand new G class folks in particular give us a very bad rep, since it’s usually rich assholes who care about the looks, rather than its excellent offroad capabilities. Those of us driving stuff from previous eras love the excellent engineering, the cars that are built to keep going forever if maintained… And then you’ve got assholes like this ruining the three-pointed for everyone.
Uh, look at the sub name.
I like cars. Love driving. I still think cities should be walkable and have good public transit. In fact I prefer driving outside big cities.
Fuckcars has always been “fuck car dependence” mostly.
Why do we need both, then? Cars are always going to come at the detriment of other forms of transportation. Cars have externalities that no other form has; every time you drive a km, you kill a fractional human being. How do you do the math on that and decide you liking cars is more important than the significant fraction of a human being that you kill? It’s like alcohol; there’s no good amount, but the addicts are going to insist otherwise on the flimsiest of evidence.
Because sometimes I like getting there in one hour instead of 4 by train because my route isn’t common enough to build a railroad for, so I’d have to take two trains. This goes for more than one place I sometimes need to get to. Keep in mind, I live in a properly small town currently.
You also kill a fractional human being every time you take the bus or train, the fraction is just significantly smaller. But it’s there.
You can think cars are problem while acknowledging aspects they are necessary in. Off road on a bike is ludicrously difficult, impossible on trains or busses, and dangerous at times on foot.
Acknowledging it as the problem is a fallacy, acknowledging as a tool is important. You use the right tool for the job, not the most convenient. The issue is that we live in a society that sees vice grips as good enough for the job, and anything as a hammer. Using the right tool is important but laziness is easiest.
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Literally responded to another comment already: just because I like cars doesn’t mean I favour car dependency or car-centric city design. Those are the things this community used to be against, not me driving between towns that will never receive a direct rail connection.
Also subs are a reddit thing, why use that terminology here?
gha, nothing like the nouveau rich right? previous era mercedes like, the 30s and 40s right?
yeah breaks my heart poor nazi collaborators getting a bad rap because of these pricks lol
I personally meant 80s, 90s and 00s as my favourite periods, but okay. Let’s go with that logic.
The Deutsche Reichsbahn was used to transport Jewish people to concentration camps, and the current Deutsche Bahn is a successor. Should Germans protest trains then?
Actually, matter of fact, Škoda tech was extensively used by the nazis (both Škoda tanks and guns, in fact), so really I can’t take the train here in Estonia anymore either, I might catch a Škoda by accident..
For distances outside of bicycle reach, that leaves me Uyghur genocide flavored cars, hypercapitalist corporatocracy flavored cars (South Korea consists of like 3 companies, one of them being Hyundai and Kia), Hirohito cars and buses (some bus services here use Isuzu), or nazi cars and buses. Or I guess Mussolini cars and Trump cars, but who wants anything Italian or American anyway.
If you consider historic ties of different companies to dictatorships that ended 80 years ago, you can honestly be left unable to use any mode of transport other than a bicycle, depending on where you live. Don’t get me wrong, I love bicycles, I used to willingly cycle 15 km to gym (and then 15 km back) as a teenager instead of taking the bus. But a lot of the time, bicycles aren’t practical, and nearly every car, train or bus company has been at some point connected to some dictatorship.