• Stamets@lemmy.worldOP
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    2 days ago

    So… if someone can’t help how they look then you shouldn’t shame or mock them but if you choose to look a particular way then get fucked? That is a truly fucked up moral to try and proclaim. That it is totally acceptable to mock someone for their looks as long as they’ve chosen to look that way.

    What a shitty, fucked up and miserable little world you must live in. Why don’t you show us what you look like? I’m curious what decisions you’ve made. I mean… fair is fair. Right?

    • Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      2 days ago

      Yep.

      It’s funny how you’re acting superior but have no problem judging the world I must live in as being shitty.

      The difference between you and I is that I don’t lie to myself. It’s a subtle difference but actually leads to living in a world that is less shitty.

      Maybe one day you can join me but you’ll need to let go of that gate your keeping yourself behind.

          • UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.works
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            1 day ago

            Nope. It’s the paradox of tolerance you’re upset about.

            Fallacies can be either illegitimate arguments or irrelevant points, and are often identified because they lack evidence that supports their claim. You mocking someone about thier appearance is, yup, CHILDISH.

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              It’s really weird how much emotion is in all of these responses but it’s really silly when you then claim I am being emotional.

              I’ve made no claims to my moral superiority but you and other have. That is a paradox.

              We disagree on something. Calling me childish is a bully tactic.

              I am true to myself and that offends people in weird silly ways. It results in them applying their imagined prejudices to me.

              These are all logical fallacies and if there is one thing I’ve learned over the year is that those who deploy them are not worth arguing with and this is such an occurrence.

              I knew it would lead here because the internet is predictable because people are predictable.

              For example you will now ignore me or responses with an emotional response, dismisal of my position and list of logical facllicies you feel I am using because you aren’t interesting in a discussion.

              You need me to be a bad person

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                You’re literally just defending why it’s ok for you to be a bad person.

                All I did was call out people for being bad people. You getting offended and defending why making fun of people is ok is childish. You then getting offended about being called about just proves how immature you are.

                Be better

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                  The issue here is still you thinking I’m offended. I’m not. You continue to insist I am and insist you know my motivations.

                  You and I disagree I what a bad person is. I can accept that. Why can’t you?

                  I posted this knowing it would get called out. Literally just said that. It appears you’ve having trouble understanding what I am saying.

                  I think this makes you a bad person. If you disagree then by your own rules that makes you childish. Does this help you see the fallacy of your logic?

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        It’s funny how you’re acting superior but have no problem judging the world I must live in as being shitty.

        Well yes. Because Im judging the world you live in, not you. I’m saying that if you go around doing this, you’re going to see nothing but misery and contempt everywhere you go. You on the other hand are openly mocking a person. There is a difference between these two. Should I get the crayons to help out on that explanation? And if you want to whine that I’m not being nice to you, you broke the social contract and decided that it’s okay to mock people to make the world better. I’m just using your rules.

        The difference between you and I is that I don’t lie to myself.

        It’s a subtle difference but actually leads to living in a world that is less shitty.

        Ahhhh, my mistake. Sorry. I didn’t realize that attacking people for how they look actually makes the world less shitty. Makes total sense.

        Maybe one day you can join me but you’ll need to let go of that gate your keeping yourself behind.

        Brother, you are openly judging someones appearance and saying you’re allowed to mock them but saying I’m the gatekeeper?

        Good luck with that.

        By the way, I’m still waiting for you to post what you look like.

        I mean you’re saying that we get to mock people based off of appearance to make the world better. Show yourself. Let us see what you look like. Never know. Maybe the world needs to be made better?

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          I look like shit, but that guy is going to die if he keeps taking such high doses of steroids. I don’t celebrate the life choices of an emaciated heroin addict, and while I might not mock them either, it’s understandable we might socially acknowledge that their behaviour is undesirable for a number of reasons. There’s no need to eradicate any and all perceived criticism of others’ choices, it feels a bit like you’re using it as a cudgel or some sort of weaponised purity test.

          or

          “I hope he reads this bro”

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            I look like shit, but that guy is going to die if he keeps taking such high doses of steroids.

            Okay, show us your life choices so we can judge you. I mean if it’s killing you, we’re allowed to mock you after all. Right?

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              You rely on that rhetorical device a little too much.

              In my daily life I expect, receive, and largely accept criticism for any poor decisions. I choose not to broadcast my daily life to the world via social media.

              Your behaviour, ironically, comes across as bullying.

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                In my daily life I expect, receive, and largely accept criticism for any poor decisions. I choose not to broadcast my daily life to the world via social media.

                And there it is. You believe that it is acceptable to bully someone so long as they publicly show their face and you are not willing to show yours because you are hiding from the same criticism.

      • NιƙƙιDιɱҽʂ@lemmy.world
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        Judging peoples choices regarding their own body that has nothing to do with anyone else makes the world less shitty.

        Got it. Thank you.

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        Also, by this logic trans people should get mocked because they made those choices to their bodies and it’s outside those norms, but i thought we were trying to be more accepting