• Flax@feddit.uk
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      3 hours ago

      They lack a good moral code. Although by this logic I could also say that on this basis, I think Islam should have died out. But I am British and that’s “racist” apparently.

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        38 minutes ago

        Atheists don’t have a unified moral code though, since atheism doesn’t advocate for any specific one. Christianity’s moral code is undeniably flawed though, as are the ones for most religions.

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          “slight”. How is it “slight”? You go from a religion of bearing suffering, being saved by grace, monogamy to one of polygamy, conquest and slaughter, works based salvation and many rituals. The Muslims don’t even worship Christ. Mohammed basically copied some stories, Christian practices, then made the rest up.

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            True. But, practices and stories are what a religion is made out of. The dietary laws are in the bible even if they’re interpreted as no longer applying, most of the other things that are forbidden to Christians are still forbidden, and they’re really big on charity and not worshiping other gods. The fasting is new, I guess, as is the specific style of prayer.

            I kind of have to go through the rest piece-by-piece.

            bearing suffering

            Subjective, so I’ll just leave it.

            being saved by grace

            How that’s interpreted varies massively by denomination and through history. The protestant version I was taught isn’t even the original one historically - everyone had to keep up with their confessions before the reformation.

            monogamy to one of polygamy

            I suppose there was a pretty decent divergence there, although I’m surprised to hear it as a grievance.

            conquest and slaughter

            … You’re British. It’s a Christian nation that has a certain history.

            and many rituals

            Almost everything that happens in a church qualifies as well. Some of the more American-style churches are flexible about it, and drink their grape juice out of plastic cups n fold-up chairs, but AFAIK the King’s church still keeps the old flair.

            The Muslims don’t even worship Christ.

            He’s #2 after Mohammad. It’s true he’s not worshiped though. You need a trinity to make that not idolatry, which is one of the bones Muslims have to pick with Christians.

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              The Bible doesn’t mandate any rituals beyond Holy Communion and Baptism. Anything else is optional. It also teaches salvation isn’t by works.

              Using what Christian’s did to define Christianity isn’t genuine either. The Qur’an speaks of subjugation.