• FourPacketsOfPeanuts@lemmy.worldOP
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    Things I’ve learnt:

    • the American continental army tried to take Quebec early in the war but were unsuccessful

    • inhabitants of British Canadian territory did not have the same sentiment towards Independence as in the 13 American colonies, it was far more sparsely populated, lived in closer association with indigenous people, and was not economically large enough to consider independence

    • after the war, many British loyalists left America and settled in Canada causing the cultures to diverge even more

    • Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Michigan, Wisconsin and other bits all used to be part of British Québec

    • America attempted to claim modern day Quebec in the Paris peace talks after the war

    • in the end the British surrendered only the above territories with the border becoming more or less the modern US-Canadian one

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      Always check your sources kids. @Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win has cited a page from the personal website of a university. The university was established by the first Roman Catholic bishop of Ottawa, Joseph-Bruno Guigues, who entrusted administration to the Missionary Oblates of Mary Immaculate. And according to the (biased) source listed, the colony officially aligned with Britain. The governor of Québec, Guy Carleton, enlisted local militias and had support from clergy and nobility, ensuring that Canada did not remain neutral. This is why media literacy is important! Check your sources :)

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        … wut? “The personal website of a university”?

        What do you think ‘as much as possible’ meant in an era where they were ruled by one of the belligerents? Literacy is important indeed. The support he got was to protect local interests and not simply blind support for the Crown because the populace did not care to actually quell the American Rebellion, nor rebel themselves.

        edit: “[Guy Carleton] hoped that his policy of conciliation would bear fruit, but only the Canadian clergy (led by Catholic bishop of Québec, Mgr. Jean-Olivier Briand) and the nobility (lords) responded with any enthusiasm to the call by British authorities. The general public remained relatively indifferent, viewing the war as a ‘battle between the English.’

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    Because it remained loyalist.

    As for why… Probably due to more complex relations with American Indians and the French, and didn’t have a new ruling elite in waiting to give it equal footing in an independent North America.

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        More complex relations with American Indians:

        • In modern day Canada there was much more cross cultural marriage and contact between the American Indians and settlers. You had larger Metis communities, and the settlers were fewer in number and lived in smaller settlements that had more day to day contact with American Indians. Meanwhile, in the 13 colonies, one of the key causes of the rebellion was that the British had ruled out colonial expansion west of the Appalachians. Also, by even this early point many Amerindian tribes had been pushed out of this eastern area, and were more seen as a threat than people to cohabit with.

        More complex relations with the French:

        • The 13 Colonies were eager for French support against the British from an early point. However, a lot of modern day Canada had been French territory ceeded to the British following the 7 Years War, prior to which there had been much raiding and fighting between the French and British settlers and indeed allied Indian Nations.

        Didn’t have a new ruling elite in waiting to give it equal footing in an independent North America:

        • The colonial elite of the 13 colonies were much wealthier and generally better travelled and tied into global networks than the elite of the provinces in modern day Canada. They were further from being economically independent, and ceeding from Britain would have made them entirely dependent on the poorer, but much closer colonies to the south, which would’ve greatly limited their political power making them more client than fully independent.

        So that’s the longer version. Please help correct my misunderstandings and mistakes.