I’d love for those artists to receive a Universal Basic Income so they can keep drawing whatever they want however they want. Don’t even need to be paid for it.
Them making creative work is enough of a contribution to society. No need to put a monetary value on it.
I want to upvote harder. When the arts have died, humanity’s soul will follow soon after! Being forced to choose between having food to eat or a place to stay and pursuing creative interests is soul-crushing.
True. AI is just the latest step in capitalism killing even more of humanity and nature and humanity’s nature in the endless pursuit of greed for the wealthy few.
All these people worried about AI, are just worried economically. Your skill is still yours, and your talent is genuine and irreplaceable. Let companies use AI. The free market will take care of it.
Not only that, the true value of artisan art, manually made by humans will skyrocket.
Vote with your wallet, don’t buy off companies that use AI.
Hell fuckin’ yeah! Y’all best slap an email to the IWW and get that ball rolling so you’ll be able to join the general strike planned for May 1st 2028 (May day).
I can’t find anything referencing 2030, so I assume you’re joking (or something is whooshing over my head).
For others reading, May 1st 2028 is still on, plan around it and try to get any contracts you negotiate to end on that day (but strike with the rest of us even if not).
You have no idea how much I would love to see a general strike tomorrow, or literally any time before 3 fucking years from now, and if we’re lucky that will happen.
But so far the only concrete date we have that’s being pushed by our biggest unions is May 1st, 2028, so that’s the date I’m going to spread. If there is a call to have one sooner by any of the major unions, then I’ll switch to spreading that one instead.
Less than 10% of the US workforce is unionized. Non-unionized workers are terrified to unionize, or to join in a general strike without one due to living hand to mouth, often a month’s wages away from homelessness, and many more with health conditions rely on their job for critical life insurance to afford staying alive.
Unlike the EU, we don’t have strong social safety nets that would encourage a less formal and spontaneous general strike.
That’s not to say I don’t understand how time sensitive this is, and that every week we wait, the regime gets stronger and more able to suppress us, but I’m trying to work with what I’ve got.
If you have any suggestions, I’d be happy to hear them.
and how does that help?
serious question, i have no idea. don’t tell me to “read it up on the internet”. how do unions help when the demand for human workers is decreasing?
Many workplaces get a bit of a shock when just too much behavior is automated out.
Example; if you heard about the recent wave of theft from department stores like Target, it’s been theorized they wouldn’t have that if the stores had more staff, even if they weren’t working security. Many tech companies have gone way downhill after removing jobs they thought they could automate.
I’ve even told my job, after they encouraged me to use AI for coding multiple times, it’s looked good in demos but has spit out unusable garbage that just briefly “looks” good many times.
Artwork, as in the comic, risks becoming sloppier as models start training off other AI art. And, some hobbyists actually make open repos not visible to humans designed to specifically pollute those AI models - just for fun.
There’s a hidden price to AI, and companies see it when they’re forced into it more and more.
if you heard about the recent wave of theft from department stores like Target, it’s been theorized they wouldn’t have that if the stores had more staff, even if they weren’t working security. Many tech companies have gone way downhill after removing jobs they thought they could automate.
ah, yeah that makes sense to me, together with what another commenter said:
Because workers, and not just bosses, will get a say in where, when, and how technology is introduced. That’s what the Hollywood writers’ strike was largely about, and they won important restrictions on the use of AI, as did the screen actors guild.
together with
There’s a hidden price to AI, and companies see it when they’re forced into it more and more.
explains why an union can keep the management of companies from making short-sighted decisions.
Because workers, and not just bosses, will get a say in where, when, and how technology is introduced. That’s what the Hollywood writers’ strike was largely about, and they won important restrictions on the use of AI, as did the screen actors guild.
Heavy statement to say to someone that would lose its life job over dystopian machines, I have friends that are in this cartoon, one with a kiddo. What to say to them ?
While I wholeheartedly agree that universal basic income should be a thing, I still think it’s deeply problematic that unthinking machines replace people specifically in fields of artistic expression.
While AI can produce pretty convincing images in many styles, the actual expression of experience, feelings and general humanity is gone. Even disregarding the hardship of the artists being replaced (or assuming UBI will be a satisfying solution for them), that loss in itself is a good enough reason to be skeptical.
The main reason for the existence of art is to share human experience, and to be able to experience the world from another perspective than your own. This is a hugely important role in society that is very easily overlooked, and one that is completely lost with naïve use of AI.
You see, it’s not the internet censorship tool that prevents you from speaking your mind, it’s the people that control it!
You can dislike the tool.
AI was built on stolen work, and will not create a generation of future artists that simply has a new tool available. It’ll create a generation of workers that create profit for the wealthy class by generating garbage until it’s somewhat presentable. Meanwhile, AI will starve out because it will run out of data to learn from.
Generative AI is the current fad of the tech bro world and it’s what everyone clings onto because if everything goes well (for them), they can get future generations hooked and make stupid money. Meanwhile, media literacy will further decline, and with it the ability to look up anything on the internet, making it even more easy for the masses to be controlled.
under capitalist logic and current law, the company is legally required to maximize profit, at least if it’s publicly traded. it’s because the CEO has a responsibility to the shareholders, and shareholders typically demand maximization of profits.
Not everyone who supports gun rights are right-wing idiots.
Who was it again that said “Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary”?
Same we said to typesetters, switchboard operators, elevator drivers, milkmen, travel agents, video rental employees, lamplighters, computers (the job), horse farmers, coal miners, etc. You learn a new skill, you get a new job and carry on.
Yeah, I sometimes sit in awe of the work of the milkmen of 3,000 years ago and imagine their lives and the things that must have inspired them to carry that milk.
Buddhists claim desire is the root of all suffering… So I’m playfully suggesting they’re a Buddhist because they said AI isn’t the root of everyone’s suffering.
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The problem isn’t AI, it is capitalism.
I’d love for those artists to receive a Universal Basic Income so they can keep drawing whatever they want however they want. Don’t even need to be paid for it.
Them making creative work is enough of a contribution to society. No need to put a monetary value on it.
I want to upvote harder. When the arts have died, humanity’s soul will follow soon after! Being forced to choose between having food to eat or a place to stay and pursuing creative interests is soul-crushing.
UBI & eating the rich can’t come soon enough.
sticker i made. feel free to use it wherever you’d like.
True. AI is just the latest step in capitalism killing even more of humanity and nature and humanity’s nature in the endless pursuit of greed for the wealthy few.
All these people worried about AI, are just worried economically. Your skill is still yours, and your talent is genuine and irreplaceable. Let companies use AI. The free market will take care of it.
Not only that, the true value of artisan art, manually made by humans will skyrocket.
Vote with your wallet, don’t buy off companies that use AI.
Screw voting with your wallet; consumer-based solutions will never work. Unionize your workplace instead.
Hell fuckin’ yeah! Y’all best slap an email to the IWW and get that ball rolling so you’ll be able to join the general strike planned for May 1st 2028 (May day).
Just got an update, it’s moved to 2030. 2028 was clashing with some prior commitments of dear leader.
I can’t find anything referencing 2030, so I assume you’re joking (or something is whooshing over my head).
For others reading, May 1st 2028 is still on, plan around it and try to get any contracts you negotiate to end on that day (but strike with the rest of us even if not).
Oh you’re were being serious
You actually think one general strike 3 years out is the way to go hey?
There really is something very cute and cuddly about Americans coping with totalitarianism.
Yes, aligning your contract to expire at the same time as those of other unions does in fact give you more leverage than striking in isolation.
You have no idea how much I would love to see a general strike tomorrow, or literally any time before 3 fucking years from now, and if we’re lucky that will happen.
But so far the only concrete date we have that’s being pushed by our biggest unions is May 1st, 2028, so that’s the date I’m going to spread. If there is a call to have one sooner by any of the major unions, then I’ll switch to spreading that one instead.
Less than 10% of the US workforce is unionized. Non-unionized workers are terrified to unionize, or to join in a general strike without one due to living hand to mouth, often a month’s wages away from homelessness, and many more with health conditions rely on their job for critical life insurance to afford staying alive.
Unlike the EU, we don’t have strong social safety nets that would encourage a less formal and spontaneous general strike.
That’s not to say I don’t understand how time sensitive this is, and that every week we wait, the regime gets stronger and more able to suppress us, but I’m trying to work with what I’ve got.
If you have any suggestions, I’d be happy to hear them.
I hate to sound like that, but if you can, leave. I wish I had something better.
Godspeed American Frog.
and how does that help? serious question, i have no idea. don’t tell me to “read it up on the internet”. how do unions help when the demand for human workers is decreasing?
Many workplaces get a bit of a shock when just too much behavior is automated out.
Example; if you heard about the recent wave of theft from department stores like Target, it’s been theorized they wouldn’t have that if the stores had more staff, even if they weren’t working security. Many tech companies have gone way downhill after removing jobs they thought they could automate.
I’ve even told my job, after they encouraged me to use AI for coding multiple times, it’s looked good in demos but has spit out unusable garbage that just briefly “looks” good many times.
Artwork, as in the comic, risks becoming sloppier as models start training off other AI art. And, some hobbyists actually make open repos not visible to humans designed to specifically pollute those AI models - just for fun.
There’s a hidden price to AI, and companies see it when they’re forced into it more and more.
ah, yeah that makes sense to me, together with what another commenter said:
together with
explains why an union can keep the management of companies from making short-sighted decisions.
Because workers, and not just bosses, will get a say in where, when, and how technology is introduced. That’s what the Hollywood writers’ strike was largely about, and they won important restrictions on the use of AI, as did the screen actors guild.
That some deep sarcasm
Heavy statement to say to someone that would lose its life job over dystopian machines, I have friends that are in this cartoon, one with a kiddo. What to say to them ?
I’d say vote/rebel/protest for Universal Basic Income or any other form of economy where you aren’t forced to work or die.
While I wholeheartedly agree that universal basic income should be a thing, I still think it’s deeply problematic that unthinking machines replace people specifically in fields of artistic expression.
While AI can produce pretty convincing images in many styles, the actual expression of experience, feelings and general humanity is gone. Even disregarding the hardship of the artists being replaced (or assuming UBI will be a satisfying solution for them), that loss in itself is a good enough reason to be skeptical.
The main reason for the existence of art is to share human experience, and to be able to experience the world from another perspective than your own. This is a hugely important role in society that is very easily overlooked, and one that is completely lost with naïve use of AI.
I’d say: It’s your boss that fired you, not the tool.
You see, it’s not the internet censorship tool that prevents you from speaking your mind, it’s the people that control it!
You can dislike the tool.
AI was built on stolen work, and will not create a generation of future artists that simply has a new tool available. It’ll create a generation of workers that create profit for the wealthy class by generating garbage until it’s somewhat presentable. Meanwhile, AI will starve out because it will run out of data to learn from.
Generative AI is the current fad of the tech bro world and it’s what everyone clings onto because if everything goes well (for them), they can get future generations hooked and make stupid money. Meanwhile, media literacy will further decline, and with it the ability to look up anything on the internet, making it even more easy for the masses to be controlled.
under capitalist logic and current law, the company is legally required to maximize profit, at least if it’s publicly traded. it’s because the CEO has a responsibility to the shareholders, and shareholders typically demand maximization of profits.
“It wasn’t the bullet that killed you, it was the gun.” C’mon, dude. You’re being obtuse.
“It wasn’t the gun that killed you, it was the person who pulled the trigger.” C’mon, dude. You’re being obtuse.
Hi there, NRA. Didn’t know you did small-time socmed.
Not everyone who supports gun rights are right-wing idiots.
Who was it again that said “Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary”?
You’re right but the right wing idiots are the ones perpetuating that kind of obviously flawed argument and not one of the armed socialist flavors.
But sure, go off
The point being made is you can’t blame the tool for the operator’s usage of it.
It depends on the tool.
If you’re calling yourself a tool I’ll concede the point.
Watch me.
Guns have no use other than killing.
Yes. That doesn’t give them agency or sentience or anything though.
More “it wasn’t the gun, it was the one who pulled the trigger”, which is a true statement. We don’t blame guns for murder. We blame the murderer.
This is true, no one has ever thought of gun control before.
What? It was the shooter. You know? The human that makes choices. Tools and objects can’t be held accountable.
Same we said to typesetters, switchboard operators, elevator drivers, milkmen, travel agents, video rental employees, lamplighters, computers (the job), horse farmers, coal miners, etc. You learn a new skill, you get a new job and carry on.
Yeah, I sometimes sit in awe of the work of the milkmen of 3,000 years ago and imagine their lives and the things that must have inspired them to carry that milk.
Which milkman is your favorite?
John
I hate Buddhists.
Let’s replace them with AI
i don’t know what buddhism has to do with that? apart from that, buddhism is a great worldview in my experience.
Buddhists claim desire is the root of all suffering… So I’m playfully suggesting they’re a Buddhist because they said AI isn’t the root of everyone’s suffering.