Themselves is alright? You have to admit that doing sex work at least comparatively increases the risk of psychological damage, right? A little bit like being on deployment, I guess, to give a non-sexual example. What if a friend started doing coke or went hard in their alcoholism?
This is most often used against people asking in good faith in my experience than those who just want to troll people. In this case, the sealion is actually being perfectly acceptable, the first person doesn’t get to slander a group of people without defending their slander to said group of people.
You were asking a lot of questions in one comment. I think, just based on way too much experience as a shitposter, that you’ll have better luck if you ask one or two, add some filler text to show investment, and then wait for an answer.
Self-editing is other-care. Don’t dump your adult-level responsibilities on the community. Do your own tailoring, admitted “argumentative” book club cultist. 🤌🏼 Now, fuck off.
I mean, you generally are supposed to have control of your own affairs. We make an exception for, like, actual psychosis, but I think choosing sex work is well within the set of decisions a reasonable person could make. Depending on exact details (like gender and orientation) the money can be great, and sex is popular.
Consuming substances is generally put in the same category; the best you can do with an alcoholic is tell them you’re concerned, maybe as a group, and bugging a smoker at all is considered rude. Certain drugs are illegal as well, but fairly randomly and only for historical reasons.
I wasn’t arguing on whether it’s profitable or not (of course it is), many things are profitable and not good for you. But yes, all you can truly do when it comes to these sorts of things is advise people… 😁
And I wouldn’t even advise against sex work, honestly. If anything being a camgirl sounds like a relatively low-stress job.
Your username makes me suspicious the mental health impact isn’t actually your problem with it. And that maybe you don’t want people to make be able to make choices for themselves, or at least those people.
Of course I don’t want them to do that job (prostitution, but I’m also against cam work, which is definitely different in their psychological impact). And if you’re entirely aware and mentally stable and out of greed you open your legs and contribute to a society that commodifies everything including what should be an almost sacred union between two loving people, turning it into something bestial and transactional, then I judge that part of you negatively and I think for the sake of everyone you should stop. Certainly.
But I’ve lived and interacted enough with Roxannes to know they simply aren’t okay and often started super young and can’t even function in society anymore. Not everyone is part of the Kardashian/Jenner family, for example.
I don’t doubt that’s true, it’s a really quick way for a women to make money if they’re really desperate. I’d also assume it’s less true as you move away from the streetwalkers.
And if you’re entirely aware and mentally stable and out of greed you open your legs and contribute to a society that commodifies everything including what should be an almost sacred union between two loving people, turning it into something bestial and transactional, then I judge that part of you negatively and I think for the sake of everyone you should stop. Certainly.
That’s sounds pretty much like what I was raised with. First of all, welcome to Lemmy. You’re going to have problems here as a Christian (evangelical?) conservative, but the downvotes can’t hurt you.
I question that very narrow characterisation of human sexuality, and I question it very hard. It’s not even in the Bible; the stories it tells involving sex have a much more feudal or tribal vibe to them. Song of Songs could be seen as a counterexample, but even there, the interpretation I was taught involved an arranged marriage to a powerful dictator.
I also question if someone else commodifying something somewhere actually hurts you or me. And if making rent, like the streetwalkers are, counts as greed.
Thank you for your kind words! And it doesn’t have to be in the Bible when I have lived and I understand how vacuous sex without love is, for instance, and how damaging it can be for both parties involved (well, one I know by experience and the other by observation). Why would God want that for me? But Jesus was very much against it for instance (“your sins are forgiven” to the ‘sinful woman’ because there was something wrong there, not because there wasn’t), and the Qur’an is thoroughly and consistently against turning sex into a banal experience as well.
Yeah, if my guess was wrong and you’re actually Muslim, I don’t know the whole doctrine. I know bits and pieces, and it seems a fair bit more self-consistent based on them, although also very, very at odds with modern attitudes about certain things I’m sure other Lemmings will eventually confront you with.
(Jesus was pretty emphatically against even divorce in the Bible, including in that parable, while protestants aren’t necessarily. And the ones that do avoid it at all cost often end up in loveless marriages, which is definitely not great for your mental health, or that of your children)
Personally, when their actions start harming others.
Themselves is alright? You have to admit that doing sex work at least comparatively increases the risk of psychological damage, right? A little bit like being on deployment, I guess, to give a non-sexual example. What if a friend started doing coke or went hard in their alcoholism?
This is most often used against people asking in good faith in my experience than those who just want to troll people. In this case, the sealion is actually being perfectly acceptable, the first person doesn’t get to slander a group of people without defending their slander to said group of people.
I identify but I’d like to believe I’m not just ‘barging into people’s homes’ and being disruptive since this is an online discussion space. 😅
You were asking a lot of questions in one comment. I think, just based on way too much experience as a shitposter, that you’ll have better luck if you ask one or two, add some filler text to show investment, and then wait for an answer.
My fingers just type almost as fast as the thoughts come by, that’s all. I wasn’t really planning for anything besides giving an honest reply, lol.
Self-editing is other-care. Don’t dump your adult-level responsibilities on the community. Do your own tailoring, admitted “argumentative” book club cultist. 🤌🏼 Now, fuck off.
Trust me, everything I said was what I meant and if I feel something needs correcting and I catch it I do it. And there’s no need for this reaction…
I mean, you generally are supposed to have control of your own affairs. We make an exception for, like, actual psychosis, but I think choosing sex work is well within the set of decisions a reasonable person could make. Depending on exact details (like gender and orientation) the money can be great, and sex is popular.
Consuming substances is generally put in the same category; the best you can do with an alcoholic is tell them you’re concerned, maybe as a group, and bugging a smoker at all is considered rude. Certain drugs are illegal as well, but fairly randomly and only for historical reasons.
I wasn’t arguing on whether it’s profitable or not (of course it is), many things are profitable and not good for you. But yes, all you can truly do when it comes to these sorts of things is advise people… 😁
And I wouldn’t even advise against sex work, honestly. If anything being a camgirl sounds like a relatively low-stress job.
Your username makes me suspicious the mental health impact isn’t actually your problem with it. And that maybe you don’t want people to make be able to make choices for themselves, or at least those people.
Of course I don’t want them to do that job (prostitution, but I’m also against cam work, which is definitely different in their psychological impact). And if you’re entirely aware and mentally stable and out of greed you open your legs and contribute to a society that commodifies everything including what should be an almost sacred union between two loving people, turning it into something bestial and transactional, then I judge that part of you negatively and I think for the sake of everyone you should stop. Certainly.
But I’ve lived and interacted enough with Roxannes to know they simply aren’t okay and often started super young and can’t even function in society anymore. Not everyone is part of the Kardashian/Jenner family, for example.
I don’t doubt that’s true, it’s a really quick way for a women to make money if they’re really desperate. I’d also assume it’s less true as you move away from the streetwalkers.
That’s sounds pretty much like what I was raised with. First of all, welcome to Lemmy. You’re going to have problems here as a Christian (evangelical?) conservative, but the downvotes can’t hurt you.
I question that very narrow characterisation of human sexuality, and I question it very hard. It’s not even in the Bible; the stories it tells involving sex have a much more feudal or tribal vibe to them. Song of Songs could be seen as a counterexample, but even there, the interpretation I was taught involved an arranged marriage to a powerful dictator.
I also question if someone else commodifying something somewhere actually hurts you or me. And if making rent, like the streetwalkers are, counts as greed.
Thank you for your kind words! And it doesn’t have to be in the Bible when I have lived and I understand how vacuous sex without love is, for instance, and how damaging it can be for both parties involved (well, one I know by experience and the other by observation). Why would God want that for me? But Jesus was very much against it for instance (“your sins are forgiven” to the ‘sinful woman’ because there was something wrong there, not because there wasn’t), and the Qur’an is thoroughly and consistently against turning sex into a banal experience as well.
Yeah, if my guess was wrong and you’re actually Muslim, I don’t know the whole doctrine. I know bits and pieces, and it seems a fair bit more self-consistent based on them, although also very, very at odds with modern attitudes about certain things I’m sure other Lemmings will eventually confront you with.
(Jesus was pretty emphatically against even divorce in the Bible, including in that parable, while protestants aren’t necessarily. And the ones that do avoid it at all cost often end up in loveless marriages, which is definitely not great for your mental health, or that of your children)