But it’s not based on ethnicity, is it? It’s based on their status as a colonizer.
But as mentioned, as your argument is based around deporting immigrants to Israel back to Europe on account of them being European immigrants to Israel, it absolutely is based on ethnicity.
You’re right, I did make that sweeping generalization. Good thing I walked it back when presented with evidence and clarified a more specific position. Almost like I’m open to learning when I’m not being condescended to by some keyboard warrior.
When did you walk that position back? You simply kept speaking of immigrants as ‘colonizers’ without walking back any statements before that quoted one.
Okay, so based on what you’re telling me now, I’ll update my opinion again. Wow, I wish you could have presented this information from the beginning instead of being a jerk that nitpicked points to argue with (and did a poor job of it btw).
I’m sorry that I addressed your argument as your presented it, instead of using my prophetic powers to see into the future where you’d change your argument, and addressing that instead?
So is it fair, then, to call for the relocation of Israeli colonizers living in Palestine to return to Israel? I think maybe we’re finally getting to somewhere where we can agree 😎
More fair, I would say, but more realistically I would point to the only real solution as the total cessation of Israeli government control over illegal settlements to Palestinian authorities. The ball is then in the court of the Palestinians of how they want to treat the settlements - most likely, the simple non-recognition of the legitimacy of the property ownership (and eviction if they refused to vacate property they did not legally own) would be enough to send most of them packing back to Israel. For those who stayed anyway, attempting to rent and work in the region despite the apartheid settlement being dismantled, I would argue that deportation becomes a much more fraught subject, though considering the lack of legal recognition of their entry into Palestinian territory and the likely knowledge of the unlawful nature of the settlements, less severe than ethnic cleansing usually is.
What’s the point of that quote? Is it because I reference birthright and therefore the people I’m referring to are ethnically Jewish? And therefore I am calling for the relocation of people based on their ethnicity? Or am I clearly calling for the relocation of colonizers, of which I had misunderstandings of where those colonizers are coming from? Hm 🤔
Bruh, you spent most of this comment chain defending the expulsion of ‘colonizers’ on this ground without reference to illegal settlements, and, within the context of the first few comments, quite clearly in regard to Israel as a whole, not just specific illegal settlements.
HOLY FUCK ARE YOU SERIOUS? IT’S BEEN ESTABLISHED SINCE MY SECOND COMMENT (REALLY MY FIRST COMMENT IF YOU WEREN’T BEING BONEHEADED) THAT MY POSITION IS NOT THE SAME AS THE POSITION IN THE MEME.
🙄 oh okay so we are just lying now okay. Right, I NEVER walked back my sweeping generalization and I NEVER specified further. For sure!
Right, it doesn’t take the power of foresight to recognize that someone saying “idk”, followed by a statement of position followed by a “, no?” is clearly a person asking for someone to explain what is wrong with their position. It ALSO doesn’t take the power of foresight to recognize that in my next comment, my argument was updated, and that I was clearly open to new information as it was presented. Maybe you should get a grip on your ability to perceive things that are plainly in front of you.
But I’ve also been quite transparent about my ignorance and you’ve just been treating me as a racist instead of recognizing how reasonable I was being when presented with information and my willingness to update my position? Like you’re just arguing in bad faith under the assumption I am arguing in bad faith even though it’s pretty obvious I’m not.
But as mentioned, as your argument is based around deporting immigrants to Israel back to Europe on account of them being European immigrants to Israel, it absolutely is based on ethnicity.
When did you walk that position back? You simply kept speaking of immigrants as ‘colonizers’ without walking back any statements before that quoted one.
I’m sorry that I addressed your argument as your presented it, instead of using my prophetic powers to see into the future where you’d change your argument, and addressing that instead?
More fair, I would say, but more realistically I would point to the only real solution as the total cessation of Israeli government control over illegal settlements to Palestinian authorities. The ball is then in the court of the Palestinians of how they want to treat the settlements - most likely, the simple non-recognition of the legitimacy of the property ownership (and eviction if they refused to vacate property they did not legally own) would be enough to send most of them packing back to Israel. For those who stayed anyway, attempting to rent and work in the region despite the apartheid settlement being dismantled, I would argue that deportation becomes a much more fraught subject, though considering the lack of legal recognition of their entry into Palestinian territory and the likely knowledge of the unlawful nature of the settlements, less severe than ethnic cleansing usually is.
Bruh, you spent most of this comment chain defending the expulsion of ‘colonizers’ on this ground without reference to illegal settlements, and, within the context of the first few comments, quite clearly in regard to Israel as a whole, not just specific illegal settlements.
HOLY FUCK ARE YOU SERIOUS? IT’S BEEN ESTABLISHED SINCE MY SECOND COMMENT (REALLY MY FIRST COMMENT IF YOU WEREN’T BEING BONEHEADED) THAT MY POSITION IS NOT THE SAME AS THE POSITION IN THE MEME.
🙄 oh okay so we are just lying now okay. Right, I NEVER walked back my sweeping generalization and I NEVER specified further. For sure!
Right, it doesn’t take the power of foresight to recognize that someone saying “idk”, followed by a statement of position followed by a “, no?” is clearly a person asking for someone to explain what is wrong with their position. It ALSO doesn’t take the power of foresight to recognize that in my next comment, my argument was updated, and that I was clearly open to new information as it was presented. Maybe you should get a grip on your ability to perceive things that are plainly in front of you.
But I’ve also been quite transparent about my ignorance and you’ve just been treating me as a racist instead of recognizing how reasonable I was being when presented with information and my willingness to update my position? Like you’re just arguing in bad faith under the assumption I am arguing in bad faith even though it’s pretty obvious I’m not.