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Light blue countries have restrictions (such as permanent residency) so I wanna hear your opinions as well.

  • PlzGivHugs@sh.itjust.works
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    23 hours ago

    The question wasn’t about expecting people to be born in the country they wish to live, it was about whether citizenship by jus soli should be an option without conditions.

    But why should it be an option if you don’t and/or don’t intend to live there?

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        8 hours ago

        I don’t see why voting or having political influence in a country you have no commitment to is a good thing. It seems to me that it just makes it easier to abuse the systems in place without having to live with the consequences.

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          3 hours ago

          That’s assuming foreign parents who had no intention of staying in a country decided to take the option of granting their child citizenship to that country for no reason. Then, that child lives somewhere that allows dual citizenship. And then, that child, once grown up in a foreign country, who has no commitment or interest in the nation of their birth, goes out of their way to vote and exert political influence on the country to which they have no commitment.

          In those few, extremely rare cases are enough to fuck up a nation’s politics, immigration isn’t the problem.

          https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/optional

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            2 hours ago

            In those few, extremely rare cases are enough to fuck up a nation’s politics, immigration isn’t the problem.

            They’re rare, but not impossible, esspecially when it comes to the involvement of powerful/rich governments, corporations or individuals. We already have enough of that, no reason to make it easier for effectively no gain.

            Edit: esspecially considering that ability to chose the location your child is born in is based primarily off wealth rather than moral character or anything else positive.