As the situation in regard to report immigrants escalated, and the army may be used against Americans, do you believe there’s a way back, or is this a one way street to civil war?

  • Norah (pup/it/she)@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Every state has a national guard. I’m actually really surprised the California guard followed Trump’s illegal nationalisation when Newsom clearly stated he didn’t authorise it, as is his right.

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      I mean, some of them knew it was coming and lost their phones, but I don’t find it too surprising. Are you really going to risk serious consequences because you got activated when you shouldn’t have been?

      Report for duty and let your chain of command fight it out. It’s not up to the guard members to work out the legality of their deployment

      Now, if they start telling you to perform violence on civilians, that’s when you can take a stand and refuse orders. And so far, that hasn’t happened

      I think they’re doing well. I haven’t seen them raise a finger to the protesters, they just stand there in a line calmly. The protesters are great with them too, they just keep yelling “you should be over here with us”. And with any luck, the courts will give them back to the governor so they can go home before they have to make a hard choice

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      Yes and CA is one of the most liberal states, if their national guard rolls over for illegal orders then we have no chance with red or purple states.

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      Newsome has the authority to have state police and the CBI to arrest guard members who don’t follow the order to stand down.

      He won’t, and I don’t know if I believe the state police would side with a Democrat, but the possibility is there.

      Of course, there are MANY things that politicians have had the authority to do to stop things since January, yet they haven’t.