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    22 days ago

    She is kind of clueless, but yeah. At least maybe sparks people thinking.

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      You seem kind of clueless about the 13 min interview where she speaks fully, from which this brief quote is taken. But at least maybe sparks people listening to more than just quotes.

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          Alright then - put your money where your mouth is. If getting on a boat to draw international coverage of a genocide isn’t enough - what did you do to fight evil today?

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            I told a rightwinger that if he drew Trump’s face on all of his cumsocks, he might get off quicker.

            He’s still a Trump supporter, but, the genocide didn’t end, so.

            0 - 0 Me and Greta rn. No clear winner.

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              Pro tip - directly insulting a Trump supporter with that kind of irrelevant remark doesn’t really help.

              You want to look for pain points and hypocrisy. Do they have kids? Talk about what happened at Miss Teen America. Are they flipping their lid about Trump protecting ‘merkins from sharia law? Ask them why he supports Al-Sharaa.

              Greta, you know, kinda got international news to cover Gaza here? Also got international news to cover our impending climate disaster?

              Talk is a form of activism. Just because you don’t get instant results doesn’t mean that it’s pointless.

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          21 days ago

          She hasn’t prevented fascism so her efforts have been fruitless? Kinda nonsense argument is that?

          She started a worldwide youth climate strike movement involving millions in 150+ countries over thousands of strikes. Encouraged global youth and political reforms, even influencing local government decisions in places like the U.S, credited with inspiring the “Greta effect”: shifts in public attitudes and behaviors on climate action. Made flight-free travel a trend, boosting the “flygskam” (flight shame) movement in Scandinavia, which reduced domestic flights in Sweden by ~9% in 2019. Put actual pressure on the systems at large and has impacted their decision making. List goes on. These are deep systemic changes she’s successfully pushing.

          With no backing other than having a spine. MAGAts love to pretend her parents pushed her into it but it was the other way about.

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      Well I guess governments like the US do use racism to convince their supporter base that what Israel is doing is good, essentially by equating a whole nation with potential for terrorism. and this fits the narrative in many people’s head when the said nation is mostly middle eastern, has brown skin and speaks arabic.

      But this is just one such tool. There is religion, nationalism, fear mongering etc etc The real reason is as always, insanities revolving around wanting more and more and more power.

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        Literally everything is manipulation. Nobody questions why this particular girl was allowed to speak in front of the EU. Nobody thinks about why things happen. Who are selected and who is not. What agenda is played out.

        If you as a teenager wants to talk to the EU, you think you can just do that? Many questions.

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          She started a protest and got thousands who followed her on the streets including scientists and politicians.

          She’s a lobby leader it’s kinda normal for them to speak infront of parliament.

          Her being a minor made her the darling of the press which also helped.

          Now please share your theory.

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            I dont have one. I just thought it was strange. Normally people dont get any attention at all. You have thousands of people demonstrating over issues and they get almost zero attention. This girl was put on media, got a lot of support and attention and became some kind of a symbol. Why her?

            People protest all the time and nothing happens.

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              Our memories are short and redundant news cycles endless, in addition to everything in our own lives to attend to. Greta and her family lived a fairly comfortable life, from what I understand (and I can have a faulty understanding), but her family loved her enough to make sacrifices to encourage her passion (I believe her mother gave up her career? Please correct me if I am wrong) which fortunately fell on climate justice, which naturally eventually led to social justice, since the poor and disenfranchised have the most to lose, first. This is a very bad rough summary so a few kilos of salt, please.

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          Nobody questions why

          When she first popped up there were MANY people who questioned who the fuck she was that she could speak to the EU leadership. Why her? Because she’s been an activist from a very young age, and her parents have connections (being minor celebrities).

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            I dont know. I just would like to know why she is treated special and became a world celebrity, since nobody else could do that.

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              if we are talking about the media, the media always loves a good story. a young girl with this much determination is a good story.

              if we are talking about whether she deserves all the praises she gets that is another topic.

              In any case it is good to create such role models for younger generations especially when on the opposite side we have shit faces like Andrew Tate trying to spread misogyny and toxicity to them.

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                The leader is a follower and the follower is a leader that is dead. If there is a hell, it’s inside your head. You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t force it to drink. So it is pearls before swine.

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                A young girl with this much determination… So you think anyone with enough determination will be able to speak to the EU and get media coverage to argue with Donald Trump?

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                  I have seen similar things happen before multiple times. One I can remember: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-42358227

                  So you think anyone with enough determination …

                  Also I am going to remind you we are talking about a twenty two year old girl who went to a fucking war zone knowing that she will be apprehended by soldiers of a fascist regime. I don’t know the last I saw a twenty two year old girl do this. So yea I think this situation is more unique than you elude to by your three dots.

                  Given that you asked such a loaded question, you at least must have some speculations as to why she was able to speak to the EU?

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                    I thought it was about connections from her rich family, and their ability to pull strings to make these sort of things happen for their kid.

                    But from this thread, it seems the Wikipedia truth is that she is seen as a hero and risking her life. Maybe that is what actually happened, I wouldnt know.

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              In August 2018, aged 15, Thunberg began skipping school, vowing to remain out of school until after a Swedish election to attempt to influence the outcome. She protested outside the Swedish parliament where she called for stronger action on climate change by holding up a Skolstrejk för klimatet (School Strike for Climate) sign and handing out informational flyers.[7] After the election, Thunberg spoke in front of supporters, telling them to use phones to film her. She then said she would continue school striking for the climate every Friday until Sweden was in compliance with the Paris climate agreement.[8] Thunberg’s youth and blunt speaking manner fueled her rise to the status of a global icon.[9]

              After Thunberg’s first school strike for the climate, other students engaged in similar protests. They united and organized the school strike for climate movement. After Thunberg addressed the 2018 United Nations Climate Change Conference, weekly climate strike protests took place on Fridays around the world. In 2019, coordinated multi-city protests involved over a million students each.[10] To avoid carbon-intensive flying, Thunberg sailed on a carbon-free yacht from England to New York where she addressed the 2019 UN Climate Action Summit.[11] In her speech, Thunberg scolded the world’s leaders by exclaiming “How dare you” in reference to their perceived indifference and inaction to the climate crisis. Her admonishment made worldwide headlines.[12]

              https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greta_Thunberg

              You’re clearly a troll with nothing better to do than “just ask questions” https://youtu.be/elRxbGJuCw8 but for the benefit of others, click on the Wikipedia link above and read for yourself who Greta is and why she’s famous.

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              When she first got into activism she was a 16yo child of privilege and mistakenly believed the influential people who organized annual climate conferences actually wanted change.

              The neoliberal media used her passion and desire for change to make themselves look good (greenwashing) by taking advantage of her naïveté, and made her famous as a result. She pretty quickly realized what was happening and was radicalized by the experience. She started giving speeches outside the climate conferences to protestors instead of giving them to wealthy neoliberals inside the climate conferences, which resulted in the neoliberal media joining in on the conservatives’ smear campaign against her.

              Of course, there’s no way to know what is actually happening in her head, but the change in her actions indicates a radical shift in her worldview. She has become a truly radical activist for social justice. Using her fame as leverage does not discredit her in the eyes of anyone who supports her cause. It is strategic and necessary for protecting herself and her comrades from retaliation for their activism.