Hello, I’m not that informed about UBI, but here is my arguement:

Everyone gets some sort of income, but wouldn’t companies just subside the income by raising their prices? Also, do you believe capatilism can co-exist with UBI?

  • missingno@fedia.io
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    3 months ago

    While I’d prefer to fully dismantle the whole capitalist system, I can accept UBI as the most realistic compromise we’re likely to get in our lifetimes.

  • .Donuts@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Here’s a good breakdown: https://econreview.studentorg.berkeley.edu/unboxing-universal-basic-income/

    As for my thoughts, yes there would be a noticeable impact at first, but UBI would help stabilise and strengthen the economy in the long term because purchasing power and demand will increase. If supply can keep up, prices won’t go up. Companies can’t just raise prices as that’s called price fixing. Antitrust laws should be there to prevent that, but your mileage may vary depending on your country. That means that if some companies decide to raise prices because of more purchasing power, some smart company is going to charge less to gain more market share. So we’re still doing capitalism, but there’s a social safety net.

    Also, people will still go to work to find purpose. Except “work” in this case could mean the freedom and flexibility to contribute locally, or take higher risks like entrepreneurship or becoming an artist.

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    3 months ago

    A few days ago, I saw a post about negative income tax which is something that had occurred to me independently. Wasn’t surprised to learn that someone with more brains had actually given it some serious thought and that it had an actual name.

    That would be the sort of thing I’d be interested in being implemented, so that those who are on little to no income - especially those who can’t simply “get a (better) job” for whatever reason - don’t fall below the poverty line.

    This is not to say that the UK benefits system (where I am) doesn’t work at all, but it’s often coupled with the expectation of getting the recipient back into work or to getting a better job where you don’t need them any more.

    It would be nice if that part went away.

    • subarctictundra@lemmy.world
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      29 days ago

      I guess that’s essentially what UBI is – benefits, except that they’re high enough and you’re not forced to seek for a job. The negative income tax could perhaps be constantly adjusted to respond to how many humans were currently needed in the economy; although I suppose that the size of the wages themselves would be enough to achieve this. Also, I think UBI could be paid for by taxing the robots, whenever it could be proved that the robot had the same abilities as an employee. The monthly tax could be the size of the replaced employee’s montly salary and it could go directly to the specific person that the robot replaced. Come to think of it, the legal framework could be that only employees are allowed to own robots (and not companies), and the robots would therefore work and earn directly on behalf of that person.