that second half is a philosophy of mind and is nontrivial. But I’m sure there is evidence out there of people geniunely experiencing pain or negative emotion when contronted with expressions of the negative emotions / pain

If you forgive the cognitive effort involved, do you mind sharing the proof or evidence

Removed by mod

Removed by mod

Removed by mod

Removed by mod

Removed by mod

That’s hilarious

The intention is false bc all things come to an end.

I’m skeptical if health is of value or if there are higher priorities for our life. I am reminded of this quote,

"You will find rest from vain fancies if you perform every act in life as though it were your last. " Marcus Aurelius

Would I be concerned for my health if my day was my last? I think not. Perhaps I would prioritize other people, express my farewells.

This makes sense, though there are more variables to consider. In a city, a walk means you’re inhaling car exhaust, cigarette smoke from passerbys, and at risk of being victim to a crime. Less dramatically, there’s the risk of falling or getting lost. All these things are problems for “physical health”. From this perspective, it may be better to drive as the air quality is better and the car provides shelter, like a big shield. Although driving is risky in its own right such as car accidents or road rage. For context, rage is stressful, and stress is not conducive for health.

Stepping back for a moment, should we care about health? Aren’t we fighting the inevitable? What good is it to be healthy yet suddenly die, like Charlie Kirk? Is the practice of being healthy a denial of our mortality? Is being in denial of mortality to live life in bad faith? Is this willful ignorance a virtue, a vice, or something we ought to entertain? I don’t know. It’s hard to say that we ought to be unhealthy. That also seems wrong. Then again, a stoic philosopher Seneca the Younger once said,

“Why does God afflict the best of men with ill-health, or sorrow, or other troubles? Because in the army the most hazardous services are assigned to the bravest soldiers … No one of these men says as he begins his march, " The general has dealt hardly with me,” but “He has judged well of me.”"

I chose to be better

to what end or by what metric? I mean you ought to be anti-materialist, religious, or idealistic if you don’t value your own survival for its own sake. It’d be spiritual or non-materialistic to believe that there’s something more significant than the outcomes of who gets to survive/die. Same applies for associated cruel but successful strategies (i.e., capitalism, colonialism, statism, militarism)

I recognize that this is a dark thought. If good people die off, then is good not biologically adaptive? We can think of institutions, colonialism, religion as predatory super-organisms or hiveminds. If they keep propagating while those who you are sympathetic toward don’t, then it seems like something is not working here, yeah? It could be adopting predatory behavior yourself, but obviously that’s not desirable. Then all I can think of is anti-predator adaption such as hiding/ invisibility/camouflaging, pretending to be a bigger threat, being part of a big crowd, or fighting back. I got most of these from this wikipedia article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-predator_adaptation

this is a witty comment and it made me laugh

cheap in money, expensive in time and effort.

the point is that a car is labor-saving in the context of groceries.

That can be a long, painful walk depending on where you live. Even with public transportation, there are stretches (say a mile or more) where you’re caring at least 20 lbs of groceries. Without a backpack or a cart, it’s quite the pain.

yeah interesting. Those two words explain a lot.

Yeah, I agree with being skeptical of rules of churches. However, something must have worked out well for them to maintain an ideology or pattern of behaviors over the generations, from parents to children, parents to children, parents to children, on and on for hundreds of years. I can’t even follow-through on my new years resolution, yet the church has figured out how to keep people praying beyond their lifespan. We could learn a thing or two as to how they are able to change patterns of behavior consistently for a long period of time. Rituals, concerts, rankings, aesthetics, events/meetings, these are all factors

God is fiction. That’s the point. When you say, “fictional god,” it comes with “shut the fuck up” which is angry and emotional. When I say, “fictional god,” I say it with a sense of wonder in the same way that Albert Einstein had for his faith in his imagination (“Knowledge is limited. Imagination encircles the world”). I think when you get more into science and math, you begin to realize that the intelligibility of the universe is so particular and odd when the universe could have been many other things. The background noise, the unintelligibility, the nonsense if you will, that might be the source of all creation. Another way of saying this is maybe a radio analogy. Think of our universe like a strong radio signal. There are many other radio stations in other geographic areas that your receiver can’t tap into. We can hear the signal, but it would be a mistake to believe that’s all there is.