• rayyy@piefed.social
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    29 minutes ago

    The rubes keep falling for it and they get all emotional and violent about it rather than getting informed.

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    3 hours ago

    Its crazy that we have literal proof that these countries have tens of thousands 9-5 employees who’s entire job is to fuck the internet with lies and its just so normalized an accepted.

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      3 hours ago

      True, but question: do you believe the US is doing the same or not? Whether it’s the actual government or companies

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    I have been thinking US probably requires a hard reset. But then I realised, this will only benefit Russia and China. Well, more for China. Russia’s expensive war in Ukraine won’t make the country last long in the future. No one worth their salt could replace Putin. If US breaks up or goes on civil war, China will be the ultimate winner.

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      4 hours ago

      It would (probably? I wanna say certainly) benefit the rest of the world too, Western Europe included (to the dissatisfaction of our current American bought, obscenely corrupt and greedy leaders, ofc).

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        Europe is still too dependent on the US military to decouple and be more independent own, unfortunately. The EU agreed to a trade deal/not-trade deal (according Von der Leyen) with Trump in European investment in the US military. I know Europeans were angry at that, but in the near term the EU doesn’t have the capability to arm itself sufficiently, while simultaneously arming Ukraine. IMO that deal was buying time for the EU to remilitarise independently (I’m not a fan of remilitarisation as a Euro but what can we do).

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          I often read “Europe needs the US military to defend itself” online, but is it actually true? Or just the US themselves saying that?

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            I often read “Europe needs the US military to defend itself” online, but is it actually true?

            For now at least. Europe doesn’t have the same size of military industrial complex that US has at the moment. Europe needs more time to gear up.

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              Europe doesn’t have the same size of military industrial complex that US has at the moment.

              I think it’s for the best. The US military industrial complex is not something that I would like to see replicated in Europe. Of course if the American standard is “police departments should have armored vehicles” then we are not on the same “level”, but do we really need that in order to have an effective military?

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    9 hours ago

    Honestly was just thinking about that earlier, how massively disappointing it must be for accelerationists and our enemies to throw so much time and energy at getting the left to start shit and we just don’t because very few of us are that dumb.

    That said, it always pays off around election time when the left splinters and some radical self destructive buffoon gets empowered instead.

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    9 hours ago

    You mark my words: Russia is one thing, but the very second the US is suitably distracted with internal affairs and can be counted on to be unable to respond, Taiwan gets invaded over night. And that shit will spiral out of control very quickly, because China won’t stop there, and nobody else wants to have to learn Mandarin in the mandatory reeducation camp (or at all). Oh, I do beg your pardon, I meant to say “Harmonization Retreat”. In Mandarin, obviously. Wouldn’t want to compromise my social credit score.

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      Why? They want Taiwan for its leverage in the silicon industry and for reinforced access to the Pacific Ocean. They really don’t have any other military targets on their radar, unlike the USA which spent the last 70 years basically pissing all over the world even after the USSR fell. If you want proof, look at Pakistan. They threw billions of dollars at it, yet its a 100% shill platform for the US. They don’t really care about controlling it so long as they are getting paid and Pakistan continues to buffer India.

      US is suitably distracted with internal affairs and can be counted on to be unable to respond

      You seriously overestimate the US being “distracted” by internal affairs. I even doubt they’d recall forces around Taiwan during a hypothetical civil war. If anything, they’d see the insane value of ending a civil war by baiting China to attack.

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        Why? Because CCP and dictator Xi literally said they would countless times. Taiwan is an emberassment for CCP and the authoritarians can’t have that. The only reason China didn’t invade Taiwan as of yet is because they couldn’t and as soon as they can they will, that’s literally the official stance.

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        I don’t deny it, even though I’m not sure what ‘empire’ you’re referring to. The US presumably? Yeah, I live a little closer to China than that, and am generally not inclined to agree with the US on anything much these days.