Why are most people here are negative and rude?

Just to be clear here, I am not talking about instance, rather I am asking about the whole community.

There is no one I seen here who even had expressed any passion towards anything really.

I cannot understand how did that happen?

  • Donald J. Musk@lemmy.todayEnglish
    27·
    23 hours ago

    I don’t think it’s “growing,” more that as society continues to get worse people’s outlooks grow darker.

    See, that’s the problem. I don’t think the world is getting “worse,” it’s just the doomscrollers on Lemmy wanting it to be worse to fit their own twisted narratives.

    I think a lot of Lemmy posters are depressed and actually want everyone else to be depressed.

    • partial_accumen@lemmy.world
      71·
      1 day ago

      I don’t think the world is getting “worse,” it’s just the doomscrollers on Lemmy wanting it to be worse to fit their own twisted narratives.

      For many MANY groups it is getting objectively worse.

      For those in the USA:

      • if they are trans they are at risk for violence or legal consequences for simply going in a public bathroom.
      • if they work for the federal government they have lost or are at risk for losing their livelihood.
      • if the weren’t a natural born citizen of the USA they are at risk for deportation to a prison in El Salvador irrespective of their circumstances of student visa, asylum visa, green card holder, even naturalized citizens.
      • if they are a women, their lives are now at risk from preventable disorders if they get pregnant
      • if they are old or disabled they are now at risk of being declared dead and having their retirement Social Security income cut off
      • if they are a child they are at risk of dying from preventable diseases (like measles or whooping cough) even with decades old effective vaccines available, but not used.
      • if they are poor they are at risk for possible hunger and starvation as basic food assistance has been cut around the country deemed as “waste”
      • if they are a veteran needing medical care they are now at risk from cuts to staff that facilitate care for the people that stood in defense of our nation.

      For our great historical allies of Canada and Mexico:

      • they are getting their economies destroyed because they trusted the USA to honor its own written treaties.

      For the rest of the world:

      • they just today the world got an unjustified kick in the shins with nearly global trade tariffs from the USA.

      The only group that aren’t generally hurt yet are: well off older white men

      As a member of that group I find it fucking disgusting what is being done to everyone that isn’t in this group at the hands of this group.

        • partial_accumen@lemmy.world
          51·
          1 day ago

          I don’t think any of that is any worse off than it was a few years ago though.

          You’re being intellectually dishonest if you are claiming your statement is true.

          Can I ask if you are a white, well off, man?

          • Donald J. Musk@lemmy.todayEnglish
            15·
            1 day ago

            You’re being intellectually dishonest if you are claiming your statement is true.

            Just because I said something that you didn’t agree with doesn’t mean I was being “intellectually dishonest,” and it’s rude of you to imply that.

            Can I ask if you are a white, well off, man?

            I’m not white, nor am I well off. Live in midsize city and never made more than $40K my entire career, and in fact made substantionaly less than that for most of it.

            I lived through the 80’s. Try living then and telling me that life is worse now. lol

            • partial_accumen@lemmy.world
              4·
              24 hours ago
              You’re being intellectually dishonest if you are claiming your statement is true.

              Just because I said something that you didn’t agree with doesn’t mean I was being “intellectually dishonest,” and it’s rude of you to imply that.

              You can keep your false righteous indignation. How can you claim to tell person in an El Salvador prison right now its “no worse off”? Please, explain that to me. How about a fired federal worker? Is it “no worse off” for them now they’re unemployed?

              I lived through the 80’s. Try living then and telling me that life is worse now. lol

              I already told you I’m an older, well off, white man. Yes, I lived through the 80s too. How is that relevant at all? You’re we should be happy now because we don’t have 12% interest rates yet and stagflation is how we should be okay with trump destroying the world economy for likely the better part of the upcoming decade? Why stop your measure over 40 years ago, long before most of the people here were even born?

              Why not tell interracial married couples “Try living in 1966 and not being able to get legally married to your spouse of a different race. lol”

              Why not tell women and “Try living in 1918 and not being able to vote. lol”

              • PapaSkwat@lemy.lolEnglish
                31·
                24 hours ago

                He’s not worth trying to debate. He’s not bringing logic to the table. He’s rooting for Trump because he thinks the Democrats have had a shitty attitude for awhile and wants Democrats to “get what they deserve.” DJM here will burn it all down to ruin your day because somebody was a little snarky to him about a political opinion once.

              • Donald J. Musk@lemmy.todayEnglish
                14·
                23 hours ago

                I don’t think things are getting worse. You do. It’s ok that we disagree. And I don’t think any of this should add to the “hate” problem that some see on Lemmy. Which is the point of OP’s post.

                Hate isn’t the answer, even if someone’s mad about whatever political environment they are in.

                • partial_accumen@lemmy.world
                  3·
                  23 hours ago

                  I don’t think things are getting worse. You do.

                  So you refuse to defend your spoken position with anything concrete, even though I’ve asked you about multiple specific examples that contradict your position.

                  And I don’t think any of this should add to the “hate” problem that some see on Lemmy. Which is the point of OP’s post.

                  Well why would you? You seem to be just fine with the destruction of lives around you, even making supporting statements that you think its good these things are happening to these people. Why do you think that your positions don’t deserve hateful responses? Lemmy doesn’t have a “hate” problem. Today’s leadership in the USA, and as a consequence, our society now does.

                  Hate isn’t the answer

                  I agree with that statement. However, your chosen positions are steeped in hate yet you defer or ignore it. That wreaks of hypocrisy on your part, and points back to the intellectual dishonesty I accused you of earlier.

                  • Donald J. Musk@lemmy.todayEnglish
                    15·
                    22 hours ago

                    So you refuse to defend your spoken position with anything concrete, even though I’ve asked you about multiple specific examples that contradict your position.

                    I’ve given you my opinion. I don’t have to back anything up. I gave you my opinion. You gave me yours. I don’t care enough to go deeper.

                    Why do you think that your positions don’t deserve hateful responses?

                    Hate’s not the answer. But you do you, boo.

                    your chosen positions are steeped in hate

                    Nope. I don’t hate anyone.

            • Grapho@lemmy.ml
              2·
              23 hours ago

              It very demonstrably is. Credit card debt is at record highs, home ownership is down, rents are a bigger proportion of salary than they’ve been in like a century, one in every five children in the US face food insecurity, incarceration is the highest in the world by far both in volume and per capita, people are going bankrupt with medical debt at record rates.

              Just because you don’t want to face up to it doesn’t mean it’s not happening.

        • Grapho@lemmy.ml
          31·
          24 hours ago

          Sure, if you refuse to look at the sky it’s pretty hard to see the asteroid getting bigger.