Too late. 100 years late. The USA never had democracy by modern standards. Maybe except for some small local positions like mayors/etc.
Just stopping by to point out that murdering, spying, and overthrowing a governments is the most normal President shit Trump has done. If your looking for the “return to normality” of Biden or Obama, this is it.
Personally kind of radical even for the social democracy i live in so I’m heavily biased but I feel like when people do talk about US-American democracy democracy as a term (rule of the people) is doing so much heavy lifting to maybe a comical extent.
While the Republican party is obviously much worse the Democratic party was still garbage. As an outsider I’m getting the impression that a lot of the momentum Trump was getting was repurposing radical thought because people while not understanding at all what Trump was doing and are at best naive felt unrepresented, abondened and overlooked and often rightfully so. That the election race was like it was does not feel like a coincidence but rather a show of how undemocratic the system really is. Besides its not like the system has not sponsored a range of fascistic coups externally to further its own interests.
Im rambling but I kind of see a liberal election as being able to pick your opposition, not your allies.
The Trump admin trying to kill Maduro is the least surprising news I’ve heard. I see them going to war with Venezuela as all but certain. The government shutdown is really the only snag.
Maduro’s bounty is worth 2x as Bin Laden now
Guyana has a lot of oil and their govt is available for purchase, Al lot of oil companies are there drilling and Venezuela wants part of Guyana. So drugs are the excuse to blow Venezuela up.
Portraying the people of Venezuela as drowning while the CIA ignores them is a curious choice for sharing an article about an attempt to kidnap the current dictator of Venezuela that started during Biden’s presidency.
You’re conveniently ignoring all of the Venezuelans they’ve murdered while claiming they were drug trafficking gang members without any evidence to back that claim up.
Two wrongs don’t make a right. You don’t have to support Venezuelan dictators or communism in order to acknowledge those are human beings they’re killing with zero justification or due process.
An attempt to kidnap the current dictator of Venezuela that started during Biden’s presidency.
Not to justify Biden doing plenty of shady shit, but in terms of when the operation began, are you sure about that?
Not to justify Biden doing plenty of shady shit, but in terms of when the operation began, are you sure about that?
That’s not the same operation. From your own fucking source in the OP:
The plot was hatched when a tipster showed up at the U.S. Embassy in the Dominican Republic on April 24, 2024, when Joe Biden was president. The informant purported to have information about Maduro’s planes, according to three of the officials familiar with the matter.
According to 3 officials who are now under the control of the Trump administration, this agent began this operation under Biden. Then even after he retired the CIA agent continued the operation? Which sounds pretty similar to the men involved in Operation Gideon.
I’m not denying Biden may have continued what Trump started, but Operation Gideon, the poorly planned and executed first attempt to overthrow Maduro began under Trump in 2020.
Not sure if you’re trying to defend what Trump is currently doing or just calling out Biden for also doing shady regime change shit? Either way, it seems like mostly a distraction from the point, which is that it seems ridiculous to use the old standby “they’re a threat to global democracy.” When democracy is under attack in the United States.
You’re conveniently ignoring all of the Venezuelans they’ve murdered while claiming they were drug trafficking gang members without any evidence to back that claim up.
It would have made much more sense to link to that instead, if that was your argument.
?? After the first boat they obliterated in international waters, they vehemently denied they were trying to force a regime change. Then they just keep murdering Venezuelans in international waters. Even though it was obvious, this story seems like pretty undeniable evidence they completely lied about what they were actually doing.
?? After the first boat they obliterated in international waters, they vehemently denied they were trying to force a regime change. Then they just keep murdering Venezuelans in international waters. Even though it was obvious, this story seems like pretty undeniable evidence they completely lied about what they were actually doing.
I’m really not seeing how the long-standing US opposition to Venezuela proves anything about Trump’s current spate of murders of Venezuelans in international waters.
It’s apparent that Trump craves a war, or something similar to feed his bloodthirsty braindead base, by his actions against Venezuelan civilians. “The US targeted the dictator of Venezuela under a plan concocted under the Biden administration!” is much less compelling as an argument for Trump’s motivations.
Operation Gideon was an unsuccessful attempt by the Active Coalition of the Venezuelan International Reserve, Venezuelan dissidents, and a private security firm, Jordan Goudreau’s Silvercorp USA, to infiltrate Venezuela by sea and remove Nicolás Maduro from power. The plan executed from 3 to 4 May 2020 was for expatriate Venezuelan former military personnel living in Colombia to enter the country by boat at Macuto, take control of an airfield, capture Maduro and other high-level figures in his administration, and expel them from the country.
Guess who was president in May of 2020
… again, that’s not the same operation that’s referenced in your link in the OP.
