• Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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    6 hours ago

    Progressives will find a hill to die on every single election cycle

    Centrists choose to die rather than tell your god netanyahu no.

    As a result, they consistently lose and are unable to enact any change.

    Centrists are unwilling to enact any change. They only support genocide. Nothing else. Ever. They always get in their own way. They always manage to find some procedural bullshit to consider sacrosanct. But they’ll break the law to sell weapons to your favorite person for your favorite activity.

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      6 hours ago

      Leftists choose to lose elections rather than do what it takes to end the genocide.

      Leftist are unwilling to meet the prerequisite for enacting any change, which is to win an election. So they are doing even less than Centrists to end the genocide. All while empowering Trump and his fascist takeover of Gaza.

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        6 hours ago

        You’re just pretending that the genocide you dearly love is the only winning issue. You know better.

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          5 hours ago

          Progressives could’ve supported Harris and minimized if not ended the genocide with Palestinians still in Gaza.

          Instead, my Palestinian people have been slaughtered and pushed out of their homes so Trump and his friends can build a new resort on Gaza beach.

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            5 hours ago

            Progressives could’ve supported Harris and minimized if not ended the genocide with Palestinians still in Gaza.

            Harris had no intention of stopping arms sales. She preferred to lose to trump than tell netanyahu no.

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              You can’t even figure out how to read voters. What makes you think you can read Harris’ mind?

              You assumed the worst of the alternative to Trump. Progressives protested the alternative to Trump. As a result, Trump won, genocide was maximized, new Trump resort on Gaza beach. Good job

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                3 hours ago

                You can’t even figure out how to read voters.

                Progressives were telling you for all of 2024 that if you continued supporting genocide, you would lose. Centrists chose genocide anyway. Said that the anti-genocide left was too insignificant to listen to. Those same pro-genocide centrists are now blaming their left because what the left told them was going to happen happened. You can’t accept that your conventional wisdom was sheer foolishness.

                If they were too insignificant to listen to, they’re too insignificant to blame.

                If they’re to blame, you should have listened to them. They were your kingmakers, not the right wing your party keeps trying to appease.

                Biden ran on a host of progressive policies. Progressives voted for him, and he won. His tenure in office demonstrated that they were all lies and that the only thing he was actually interested in was selling weapons for genocide. Harris promised a continuation of that policy. Democrats lie when they claim to want progressive policy. But they’re willing to move heaven and earth to protect the head of the rightwing government of a genocidal apartheid state by prolonging the genocide that keeps him in power.

                Not only did the Biden administration betray progressives by breaking every promise it made to them, it demonstrated through actions that his wing of the party are genocidal monsters. Did you think progressives were going to be enthusiastic to vote for someone who betrayed them so thoroughly, or his protege who not only insisted on continuing his betrayal and genocide, but considered the endorsement of Dick Cheney to be a win?

                You are determined to continue supporting genocide, no matter how much it costs everyone. I’m done talking to you. I don’t need the aggravation and disgust of knowing someone so devoted to the cause of genocide exists.

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                  3 hours ago

                  No one said they were too insignificant to listen to. You just made that up.

                  Harris would’ve lost by more if she spoke out against Israel. Just like all the progressives that lost to AIPAC candidates.

                  The only way to reduce the genocide was to support Harris and you and your progressive party chose to create an ultimatum:

                  Harris has to either speak out against Israel before the election was won and lose like all the progressives that tried the same or the progressives were going to give the election to Trump.

                  Because of this choice that progressives made, there was no way for Harris to win and as a result the genocide was amplified and Trump has a new resort built upon the graves of the Palestinian children. This is the outcome you chose.