• ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world
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    11 hours ago

    People are making this black and white when it is very much not. It’s entirely possible to want the Palestinians to be safe from harm while at the same time wanting to give Israel funding for the Iron Dome and other defensive measures to protect their people from Hamas. During the Biden presidency she pushed for more protection for Palestinian civilians and more to prevent famine, but was blocked by the administration. The VP has very little actual power to enact change.

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      People are making this black and white when it is very much not.

      You’ll do anything to justify the genocide all centrists dearly love.

      During the Biden presidency she pushed for more protection for Palestinian civilians and more to prevent famine, but was blocked by the administration.

      Sure she did. BeHiNd ThE sCeNeS.

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      no. it is not. to support israel is to support genocide. from its inception it’s been genocide the entire time. it is ok for things to feel uncomfortable but that’s how you progress. genocide bad. ok?

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      Not only Harris supported defensive weapons but also offensive weapon. Don’t you think giving gaza defensive arms would also save palestinian lives too? Would you also have supported Nazi getting weapons from your country while they comited genocide? The occupying forces and grnocidal state shouldn’t have sny right to self defence

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          It is simple to not go to an aipac event and not to promise uncondtional support.

          Simple or not is beside the point anyway

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            Simple is entirely relevant to both national politics and foreign policy.

            IT IS NOT SIMPLE.

            Treating it as if it is isn’t just wrong, it does everyone a disservice.

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              It is not. She accepted a position of power that require to fix complex issues so people has the right to critisize just like a parent can critisize a terrible teachers that not do her job correctly

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                Wow so politics, foreign policy, and education are all simple and you’ll criticize everyone who does them because you know better.

                That’s pathetic. And pretty typical.

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                  People who accept a position knowing full well its complexity should be held accountable if they fail to perform. Your logic is like when a parent complains about a terrible teacher, and the teacher—or their supporters—responds, “If you think it’s so easy, why don’t you try being a teacher yourself?”

                  Your logic is so dumb and pathetic

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      KHAMAAS!!!

      Israel created hamas, trough hundred years of genocide and occupation. It is a Zionist settler colonial project created in image of the USA. Hamas are a reaction to exactly that, it is a resistance shaped by generations of genocide, discrimination and persecution. Israel stole the land of Palestine and now wishes to expand towards Lebanon and Syria. And they won’t stop, they are the stronghold of the US interests in the region, they are supported by both parties.

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      Look at you being reasonable with a nuanced take! Don’t you know that makes you a . . . hangon . . *checks notes* . . Ah, yes - a “bootlicking piece of shit”?

      Don’t you know where you are?!? You’re in the lefty jungle, baby! You’re gonna (metaphorically) diiieeeeeee!

      In the jungle! Welcome to the lefty jungle! . . . You’re tha - B-b-b-b-b Bourgeoise! HUAGH!

      No but srs you make a good point and will be downvoted accordingly. No one will admit Harris was a better candidate than trump. As you see in the video, She, not these arrogant choads, caused trump to win, per the admonition that no one can blame the voters for not voting.