My parents, both life-long democrats, voted for him. I didn’t understand that, and I was only 15 at the time. Four years later, when I got to vote in my first Presidential election, I voted for Mondale. I’ve voted Democrat ever since in an attempt to balance out the Fascists.
The thing is, the Dems never pleased me either. I’ve realized in recent years that voting for the lesser of two evils is still a vote for evil. There should be a better way.
While I am not thrilled with the Dems, if you get progressive enough dems, they will institute ranked choice voting, which is the path out of a 2 party system. GOP has never done this.
This. The only way out is an evolution of one of the two existing parties due to the probabilistic nature of FPTP. Step one is short-circuiting media, and establishing a working class unity against the rich. Need blue collar voters united to start pushing for constitutional changes state by state.
White Boomers grew up in and received the full benefit of the American Golden Age. Conservatives offer “the good old days” and most Boomers can’t understand those good old days came from The New Deal and other 1930s legislation which conservatives put to the torch.
The DNC will never do anything that might break their Duopoly on power but Town and County elections often have Democrats who would. Not enough but it’s a start. Actual grass roots elections at this level can move the dial.
We have two parties that are shifting to the right and prioritize the rich at every turn. And yet, somehow, we’re supposed to keep pretending that voting is going to fix anything in this country.
Voting is a bandaid and we’re bleeding out at this point.
Oh, cry me a river. Change is not effortless. It can even start in your own workplace, you can put in the effort to unionize so that you have more time.
The amount of people with no time at all is very very slim. You don’t need to devote all your time to a cause. A day off or 2 a month would already be quite good. And even a few times a year is sufficient to help
Both of you are correct. You’re not wrong: people often complain about the political landscape but take no action, and use excuses like “I have no time and absolutely no way to make time, so somebody else is going to have to magically fix things for me!”.
But you also need to recognize that the US is a state with such a sistematic failure that you’re asking that a lot of people sacrifice the little time and energy they have for a cause that, in reality, would require decades of targeted collective effort, which immediately makes things less appealing and gathering a critical mass becomes significantly harder.
Yes, things take time. I understand that I’m asking that, because that’s what I’m asking for. People to not just talk, but act, consistently pushing the issue and politicians who support it through decades to insure that not only do the issues get successfully dealt with, but also so that they continue to remain dealt with. I’m aware it’s unappealing to people, but I believe that they need to grow up and do it anyways because progress will not happen otherwise. Instead of just hoping someone else will do it for them and blaming everyone, people should take action themselves.
The reason why we keep moving to the right is because people on the left are not voting. The right controls all three branches of government because of the way the country voted, why would the left move away from where they think the votes are being cast?
This is a conscious decision on the part of the two major parties to move the Overton window to benefit their wealthy backers, not savvy politicians “responding to market conditions”.
More parties and coalitions to govern. Of course in the US there’s lots of regulation that makes that all but impossible, so such laws have to change, some of them retroactively.
My parents, both life-long democrats, voted for him. I didn’t understand that, and I was only 15 at the time. Four years later, when I got to vote in my first Presidential election, I voted for Mondale. I’ve voted Democrat ever since in an attempt to balance out the Fascists.
The thing is, the Dems never pleased me either. I’ve realized in recent years that voting for the lesser of two evils is still a vote for evil. There should be a better way.
Enacting ranked choice voting at the city and county level then moving on up with it.
While I am not thrilled with the Dems, if you get progressive enough dems, they will institute ranked choice voting, which is the path out of a 2 party system. GOP has never done this.
This. The only way out is an evolution of one of the two existing parties due to the probabilistic nature of FPTP. Step one is short-circuiting media, and establishing a working class unity against the rich. Need blue collar voters united to start pushing for constitutional changes state by state.
Boomer Blue collar workers are somehow convinced that the Republican Party is their best friend. Fucking rubes
White Boomers grew up in and received the full benefit of the American Golden Age. Conservatives offer “the good old days” and most Boomers can’t understand those good old days came from The New Deal and other 1930s legislation which conservatives put to the torch.
Oppose FPTP = get my vote
<Trump, about to suggest replacing FPTP with generational monarchy>: “Hold my hamberder…”
Sure, they’ll do this just as soon as they enact universal healthcare, or federal maternity leave, or get money out of politics. Any day now …
The DNC will never do anything that might break their Duopoly on power but Town and County elections often have Democrats who would. Not enough but it’s a start. Actual grass roots elections at this level can move the dial.
We have two parties that are shifting to the right and prioritize the rich at every turn. And yet, somehow, we’re supposed to keep pretending that voting is going to fix anything in this country.
Voting is a bandaid and we’re bleeding out at this point.
Well, you shouldn’t just be voting. You should also be campaigning, researching, and even running for election yourself
Yes I’ll do those things with all the time I have that is definitely not spent on maintaining food/shelter and sleeping
Oh, cry me a river. Change is not effortless. It can even start in your own workplace, you can put in the effort to unionize so that you have more time.
The amount of people with no time at all is very very slim. You don’t need to devote all your time to a cause. A day off or 2 a month would already be quite good. And even a few times a year is sufficient to help
Both of you are correct. You’re not wrong: people often complain about the political landscape but take no action, and use excuses like “I have no time and absolutely no way to make time, so somebody else is going to have to magically fix things for me!”.
But you also need to recognize that the US is a state with such a sistematic failure that you’re asking that a lot of people sacrifice the little time and energy they have for a cause that, in reality, would require decades of targeted collective effort, which immediately makes things less appealing and gathering a critical mass becomes significantly harder.
Yes, things take time. I understand that I’m asking that, because that’s what I’m asking for. People to not just talk, but act, consistently pushing the issue and politicians who support it through decades to insure that not only do the issues get successfully dealt with, but also so that they continue to remain dealt with. I’m aware it’s unappealing to people, but I believe that they need to grow up and do it anyways because progress will not happen otherwise. Instead of just hoping someone else will do it for them and blaming everyone, people should take action themselves.
I agree completely. Let’s connect and get to know each other for future union and third party organizing.
The reason why we keep moving to the right is because people on the left are not voting. The right controls all three branches of government because of the way the country voted, why would the left move away from where they think the votes are being cast?
This is a conscious decision on the part of the two major parties to move the Overton window to benefit their wealthy backers, not savvy politicians “responding to market conditions”.
I completely agree with you. But I base my vote solely on who has the most of those little road side signs at stop lights.
We Buy Ugly Houses 2028!
I prefer the little letters next to someone’s name, even if I’ve never heard of them.
My party is the good guys.
The US has a 2 party system, until that changes, it will always be this way.
More parties and coalitions to govern. Of course in the US there’s lots of regulation that makes that all but impossible, so such laws have to change, some of them retroactively.
The better way is to build up political momentum locally, and then keep taking every seat you can
Luckily, there’s a back and forth swing in political momentum as well, and right now progressives are making huge strides