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Samsung Statement to Android Authority:
Samsung is committed to innovation and enhancing every day value for our home appliance customers. As part of our ongoing efforts to strengthen that value, we are conducting a pilot program to offer promotions and curated advertisements on certain Samsung Family Hub refrigerator models in the U.S. market.
As a part of this pilot program, Family Hub refrigerators in the U.S. will receive an over-the-network (OTN) software update with Terms of Service (T&C) and Privacy Notice (PN). Advertising will appear on certain Family Hub refrigerator Cover Screens. The Cover Screen appears when a Family Hub screen is idle. Ad design format may change depending on Family Hub personalization options for the Cover Screen, and advertising will not appear when Cover Screen displays Art Mode or picture albums.
Advertisements can be dismissed on the Cover Screens where ads are shown, meaning that specific ads will not appear again during the campaign period.
Tfw u set up Pihole so ur fridge stops spamming you with ads.
I wonder how much longer that will work. DNS over HTTPS is now a thing and totally defeats the mechanism of a pihole.
VPN running on a WRT router? I know very little about this stuff I just know the buzzwords for street cred.
Pihole’s act as a DNS or “Dynamic Name Server”. All internet traffic is IP based once it leaves your home because routers dont know how to forward traffic for “https://samsung-ad-hell.com/”, so there is a dedicated kind of packet for “Where is https://samsung-ad-hell.com/ located?” and that is a DNS Lookup. The Pihole pretends to know because it maintains a list of bad urls that host websites that only support privacy exploitation and advertisements and tells them “oh you want to go to 0.0.0.0, that’s where you’ll find your stuff” as it snickers.
But DNS Lookups were always plain text. When your laptop says “Where is https://big-booties.com/” your ISP knows you want porn. Now there is a new variant called “Secure DNS Lookup” which encrypts the url you’re asking about. The ISP knows you’re asking for a domain’s IP, but it can’t know which one and it no longer cares. Neat.
The trouble is that the Pi-Hole can no longer protect us from all the stupid fucking smart devices that want to earn a fraction of a penny per device by spying on us because THEY use the new Secure DNS Lookup.
It’s not a huge issue, you need a DoH resolver now (e.g. your browser which has a secure connection to a secure DNS server) which cannot block <script> from requesting the ad, but can definitely block <script> from displaying it once the domain resolves.
Extra overhead though, agreed
Wow really? I was under the impression that the SSL part would prevent the pihole from being able to spoof itself as a legitimate DNS
prevent the pihole from being able to spoof itself as a legitimate DNS
Not to be pedantic, but a pihole is legitimate DNS. Being able to do your own DNS has always been a fundamental part of the Internet Protocol, and is used a lot in enterprise to handle name resolution for internal subnets and stuff like that.
Interesting… Well, this prompted me to search what Pi-Hole has done for this, and they seem to have a way to continue blocking even DoH, using “cloudfared”, which is another daemon that needs to run with Pi-Hole… They can’t possibly think their enshittification will continue to work.
Me yelling “enhance” at my router so it blocks ads better
Or just block internet access completely.
This would already be illegal if we didn’t live in corporate dictatorships.
When I was at Home Depot, I absolutely refused to sell Samsung appliances. They’re garbage. They’re expensive garbage, to be more precise.
The average failure rate for a Samsung refrigerator is that around three years. The condensers are garbage. Washer/dryer? Average around five years before they break. I know, because I keep people coming back in to buy replacement appliances for their Samsung garbage.
I know this is anecdotal but I bought a Samsung washer and dryer in 2013 and the dryer lasted 9yrs and the washer lasted 10. I did have to replace the heating element in the dryer around the 7yr mark but other than that they both were fine.
I am not going to say people should buy a Samsung appliance especially with this nonsense.
But you’re falling for, and propagating, a pretty common fallacy. it isn’t that Samsung appliances are significantly worse (Consumer Reports puts them in the bottom half of the ranking but they are very much “fine”). It is that people buy them a lot.
You see this with all kinds of brands. “Never buy Shark. Everyone who buys a Shark comes back and return it or buy a new vacuum in a few years”. It isn’t that Sharks are failing more than others (they are actually #1 or #2 according to CR, depending on the metrics). It is that they are what sell the most.
Whenever appliances get brought up I always warn people to stay away from Samsung.
Stay the fuck away from Samsung appliances. They’re very pretty, very expensive, and a pile of shit.
Do you want something like this sort of thing Samsung makes? Get an LG. They’re excellent. The refrigerators used to have a bunch of problems, but they fixed all that. And they make great laundry appliances, too.
I’m going to say all LG laundry stuff must not be created equal. We have two washing machines at work and they both break every month . The only tech I can think of that’s worse are HP printers.
I fix ours (not my job, but it’s a good mental break from regular work), I start a new job next month and my boss asked what he should do about them.
Wait until they break and get something else, they’re not worth fixing. It’ll be cheaper and less downtime to buy something good.
I heard those linear compressors could be the best in the industry but they tended to fail. Did they finally fix that?
The LG ones? Yeah, they did about 2 years ago. They’re also backwards compatible with all of their previous refrigerator, models, so if you have to get a replacement, it will actually work.
I once had an LG washing machine that broke after less than five years. Not impressed.
LG is positively vicious on clothes. Also, fun fact, it’ll run a gentle cycle with the water turned off. It only seems to notice water level on runs that do load sensing.
Miele, Bosch, or gtfo for cleaning appliances.
Stay away from Samsung. Period.
They’ve been on my boycott list for a long time.
Meanwhile, my parents have some old random branded washer and dryer from the 90s that still works today. A few years ago they replaced a part, something to do with draining. Cost them all of 40 bucks and a couple hours.
They truly, and intentionally, don’t make em like they used to.
That’s just survivorship bias. You can absolutely still get reliable appliances that are cheap to repair. I’ve had to replace a few parts on my Maytag dryer (because my wife abuses it), and I only paid like $30 for a coil assembly and replacement sensors. My washer is still going strong after 10 years.
They’re often expensive, but so were reliable appliances in the good ol days. The main problem is that people want relatively cheap stuff, and that cheap stuff is made with cheap parts that don’t last as long.
Appliances used to be major purchases, and the modern consumer wants a cheap new appliance now instead of saving up for months.
I have my great aunt’s Sunbeam waffle iron from the 50s and it still works great. Appliances used to be made to be repairable, and there were appliance repair shops all over the place
Planned obsolescence is very real and one of the reasons we can’t have nice things.
That’s just not true. It’s not so much planned obsolescence as it’s companies making appliances to fit a price point and using lower quality parts to do so.
You can absolutely still buy appliances that will last decades, but they are expensive. 50 years ago you could absolutely buy a cheap washer that would need to be fixed frequently.
Are you suggesting that planned obsolescence doesn’t exist?
Never mind, you didn’t suggest, you straight up said it.
Yes sir
I made the mistake of buying a Samsung washer/dryer set in 2017. The washer actually still works and the seal has held up well, but the dryer drum jumped its tracks within the first year, and both have been plagued with gremlins.
Fuck Samsung appliances and honestly most things Samsung sells.
Should be a free fridge then.
call me old-fashioned, but you don’t need a fridge with a fucking screen in it.
More than this we don’t need smart TVs I wanna dump high quality image tv
You can sometimes disable a lot of the smart TV bullshit if you put it in gaming mode. For some models it disables a lot of the smart features to improve performance.
Samsung is committed to innovation and enhancing every day value for our home appliance customers.
Awesome, you’re going to make my life…
As part of our ongoing efforts to strengthen that value, we are conducting a pilot program to offer promotions and curated advertisements on certain Samsung Family Hub refrigerator models in the U.S. market.
Worse, because you’re just going to squeeze money and time from me
Fuck Samsung
when you buy an over-engineered appliance, if i feel like spending extra $$$ for a fridge, i’d rather go for quality steel panels and compressor, not an screen with wifi
Make me a nuclear blastproof fridge. Wtf do I need a screen for? What does the wifi do for me? Does it tell me if I am out of eggs? I fucking thought not.
Back in the 50s and 60s fridges got cold. The racks were made out of metal so they lasted forever. We could build fridges like this, but we choose not to.
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull? Or just the average sense of impending doom?
Somewhere in between. At least enough to hide inside if a missile hits my house.
Pretty sure it can, but idk how good it is.
How does it know though? If I just put a carton of eggs in there probably not. If the special egg holder is empty maybe. But I could still have eggs while the holder is empty and the fridge would be none the wiser.
But I don’t actually know how it knows the number of eggs so I might be wrong.
It knows because there are cameras inside the fridge and it can recognize the items you put inside and remove, and has logic built around all of these observations.
It’s not perfect but I’m surprised how often it’s accurate, especially in a household that doesn’t give any shits whatsoever about refrigerator organization.
Oh I see. That’s nice. I still don’t need the function though. Give me more space or a better buuld for the premium this feature costs.
My parents bought a fancy Samsung fridge with a screen 5 years ago. We bought LG. In the first year they had theirs serviced 6 times before replacing it with the same LG fridge we have. Earlier this year right before the extended warranty ran out the compressor on my fridge died. They’ve not had a single problem with theirs yet.
My brother bought a Samsung TV that was supposed to be better than my LG OLED. In the first year the anti glare coating wore off enough that there are bright spots you can’t not see. My LG TV is fine.
Typed on my Samsung phone.
Remarkable that there were no typos in that post, despite being typed on a Smasnug phone
I couldn’t even list all the horror stories I’ve heard firsthand about Samsung appliances, including massive damage to people’s houses caused by leaks.
When my parents were shopping for a washing machine a couple of years ago, they asked their friend who works at Home Depot what seemed to be reliable and he basically said “anything but Samsung”. They had way more Samsung returns than anything else.
Samsung appliances have had a bad reputation for more than a decade now. I don’t know how they can still sell appliances - how is it not everyone knows yet? How is it they still haven’t fixed the quality problems?
Samsung is a big name, and people don’t buy appliances that often.
Useless display in refrigerators finally revealed as corporate ploy to install billboard in consumer’s kitchens.
Just cut out the middleman and order the Mountain Dew Code Red for me already
But can I remotely control it with my phone? You know, because when I’m at work, I might want to remotely open the door.
They don’t do that, but they do send you a push when the fridge door is left open. Which has literally saved my bacon many times.
But that doesn’t need a screen. Why you’d want a screen on your fridge, I don’t understand. It’ll clearly be slow and obsolete long before the rest of the fridge is.
It’s the same thing in car infotainment systems. They’re the first thing to feel dated, and they are increasingly difficult to replace. But at least they give a ton of value from the screen.
And we call it “smart forward”
Fuck Samsung
Samsung is committed to innovation and enhancing every day value for our home appliance customers.
Is it opposite day already?
And Samsung just got rid of ads in their apps, like Samsung Health, a few years ago. One step forward, two sprints back.