• unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de
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    3 days ago

    I mean if there is such a thing as a “ruler of the universe” then collecting votes should be possible at the snap of a finger because it suggest that there are beings that can transcend light speed information transmission. Otherwise that ruler wouldnt be much of a ruler, because none of his actions would ever reach anyone within their lifetime.

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      3 days ago

      With our current understanding of the universe, there is no such thing as events happening at the same time unless they are in the same intertial reference frame. So, even the “snap of a finger” doesn’t make sense as you’ve described it, because that insinuates that all votes are collected across the universe at the same time as the snap, despite the extremely different reference frames.

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        2 days ago

        That doesn’t really contradict what the person before you said.

        At least according to our current understanding the universe has a pretty harsh speed limit and with that it’s pretty much impossible to govern a multi-star empire, let alone a galactic or universal one.

        Even the closest other star to us would have a round trip time of 8.5 years at light-speed. That’s maybe good enough for a self-governed colony for resource extraction, but in no way is that fast enough for any form of direct government, and that’s at light speed.

        If Bush sent a message to the colony in the last half year of his government time, the response would appear during Trump’s tenure.

        And if we consider that light speed travel is difficult and only reach, say, 0.2c, that’s a round-trip time of 42.5 years. That means, something sent during Nixon’s last months would arrive during Trump’s first term.

        No way to govern like that. And without the actual threat of military showing up in any relevant time frame, also the concept resource extraction from a colony is very unlikely to hold up. Same with trade in general. That’s just far too slow.

        And that’s just with the nearest star.

      • Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de
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        3 days ago

        It requires very wrinkly brains to understand this though. People who argue for creationism as well as against democracy usually have very smooth, polished brains.