The Charger EV can “rev” quite loudly, but it has to be put in Park to do that. It can also produce a fake engine noise while moving, but it must be in Sport mode for that. Mike told us he had his car set to the Auto drive mode at the time because he was low on battery, and that setting keeps the synthesized sounds to a minimum.
Of course he’s going to say that. ACAB but in this case if the cop claims the car was loud that’s all that is needed. You can always put some switch in your car to “change settings to quite” and claim it was on. It’s not for the cop to prove when it was on or off. The car shouldn’t be able to make loud noises at any point. If you have this setting then fuck you.
“Acab, but I immediately believe what the cop said with no evidence, even as he tickets someone for a loud muffler that the car literally doesnt have and openly fishes for other violations to try to justify the stop.”
Just cuz they don’t have a new offense name yet for the fratzonic fake super loud exhaust replicator system, doesn’t mean people shouldn’t get in trouble for doing the same dumb stuff they would with a “real” loud exhaust system.
I get your point, but ACAB means that you don’t just take cops word for things, because they are bastards. They lie and cheat and kill with impunity. If the cop has dashcam or badge cam video of the loud “muffler,” then ticket away.
Sure doesn’t seem the cop has proof, especially when they go fishing for more offenses after the stop. The latter is common cop behavior when they can’t pin their initial issue on you. They try to retroactively justify their bullshit, to get you for something to prove you’re the “bad guy.”
Since the cop cant prove the noise violation, he finds several other “provable” violations like window tint or an air freshener or whatever. This adds weight to his initial, unprovable allegation, but that doesn’t actually make it true. Cops fervently hunting for penny ante “gotchas” after the fact makes the whole thing suspect.
That is an unfortunate point. Historically the cop could prove loud noicpse because you had to modify your exhaust system, but this is just a speaker that could be on or off, with no clear proof.
I still say that DA should be pursuing action against the manufacturer that such a feature exists
I thought it was “innocent until PROVEN guilty”. Cop has to prove the setting was off, or that the noise was real. Putting the onus on the defendant means guilty until proven innocent.
Your reasonable doubt is that whoever is testifying it was on is committing perjury against a stranger for laughs vs the guy who actually bought a car with a noisemaker. I frankly don’t care if the depondent is a cop or some 7/11 cashier, that sort of he said she said with circumstantial evidence of possession of an actual noisemaker is the proof.
Of course he’s going to say that. ACAB but in this case if the cop claims the car was loud that’s all that is needed. You can always put some switch in your car to “change settings to quite” and claim it was on. It’s not for the cop to prove when it was on or off. The car shouldn’t be able to make loud noises at any point. If you have this setting then fuck you.
“Acab, but I immediately believe what the cop said with no evidence, even as he tickets someone for a loud muffler that the car literally doesnt have and openly fishes for other violations to try to justify the stop.”
Just cuz they don’t have a new offense name yet for the fratzonic fake super loud exhaust replicator system, doesn’t mean people shouldn’t get in trouble for doing the same dumb stuff they would with a “real” loud exhaust system.
I get your point, but ACAB means that you don’t just take cops word for things, because they are bastards. They lie and cheat and kill with impunity. If the cop has dashcam or badge cam video of the loud “muffler,” then ticket away.
Sure doesn’t seem the cop has proof, especially when they go fishing for more offenses after the stop. The latter is common cop behavior when they can’t pin their initial issue on you. They try to retroactively justify their bullshit, to get you for something to prove you’re the “bad guy.”
Since the cop cant prove the noise violation, he finds several other “provable” violations like window tint or an air freshener or whatever. This adds weight to his initial, unprovable allegation, but that doesn’t actually make it true. Cops fervently hunting for penny ante “gotchas” after the fact makes the whole thing suspect.
That is an unfortunate point. Historically the cop could prove loud noicpse because you had to modify your exhaust system, but this is just a speaker that could be on or off, with no clear proof.
I still say that DA should be pursuing action against the manufacturer that such a feature exists
I thought it was “innocent until PROVEN guilty”. Cop has to prove the setting was off, or that the noise was real. Putting the onus on the defendant means guilty until proven innocent.
Your reasonable doubt is that whoever is testifying it was on is committing perjury against a stranger for laughs vs the guy who actually bought a car with a noisemaker. I frankly don’t care if the depondent is a cop or some 7/11 cashier, that sort of he said she said with circumstantial evidence of possession of an actual noisemaker is the proof.